The moral decay of society

Slightly off topic:



You mentioned California and a thought occurred to me regarding all the anti feminist nonsense we see on this forum. Many righties condemn feminism and say it has led to unfair advantages for women in some regards. Well, California is a community property state (one where family property is deemed 50/50 to both spouses) as are all states that had been under Spain's past conquest. While community property laws were always in the books, when Hollywood stars divorced, wealthy female stars who married men who made less money than they did were not forced to pay alimony or have 50/50 property settlements. Because of this, some men who had sacrificed their careers for their famous wives missed out on much money.

Today, thanks to feminists, the community property law has finally been imposed. Now men who divorce wealthy women get a 50% split in property distribution. Other states which were always under the common law (as opposed to Spanish code) adopted community property settlements. Many men have been the beneficiaries as a result of this reform. Thank feminists for that.

 

For which I soundly applaud them !!!!

 

Transcendentalist were a tiny though somewhat influential minority in America in 1850 whether they were Christian or not is arguable in any case.

 

STRONGLY recommended reading:

https://acornabbey.com/blog/?p=7671


Theodore Parker was one of many "liberal" Christian preachers in the Transcendentalist and anti-slavery movement.

 

That's lovely it doesn't make a lick of difference to me I'm only highlighting evidence

 

Possibly but to my knowledge family and prayer are huge parts of religion.

I'm merely point those things out I will also say people are generally a moral

 

When everybody is thinking the same, nobody is thinking.

 

Genesis 3:1 -
Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

2The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ”

4“You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5“For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

 

Little problem with this OP. The conclusion is completely unsupported by the premise, or anything else. It's flapping in the wind like one of Trump's ties.

Let's start by seeing how you're measuring moral standards. What led you to believe they were declining everywhere?

It can't be crime. That is declining in most parts of the world. Can't be war either, that is also down as war deaths/100,000.

So what is the measure you've used to determine that moral standards are declining?

 

I thought hate crimes were on the rise?

Hate Crimes Are Real and They’re Increasing
The FBI reported 7,175 hate crimes in 2017—a 17% jump from 2016. There was a notable 37% spike in crimes targeting Jews and Jewish institutions.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ws...es-are-real-and-theyre-increasing-11562786479


School shootings have become much deadlier in recent decades, a new government report shows.

And the body counts have risen even more sharply in the past few years, the researchers noted.

Between 2016 and 2018, eight multiple-victim shootings claimed the lives of 31 kids at primary, middle and high schools in the United States, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report.

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20190124/study-confirms-steady-rise-in-school-shootings


1Half of Americans ages 18 and older were married in 2017, a share that has remained relatively stable in recent years but is down 8 percentage points since 1990. One factor driving this change is that Americans are staying single longer. The median age at first marriage had reached its highest point on record: 30 years for men and 28 years for women in 2018, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

As the U.S. marriage rate has declined, divorce rates have increased among older Americans. In 2015, for every 1,000 married adults ages 50 and older, 10 had divorced – up from five in 1990. Among those ages 65 and older, the divorce rate roughly tripled since 1990.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/02/13/8-facts-about-love-and-marriage/


The high incidence of childbearing out of wedlock is a relatively recent phenomenon. The proportions of such births a half century ago were substantially lower than today. For example, in 1964 most countries in the Organisation of Economic and Co-operative Development had no more than 10 percent of their births outside of marriage. By 2014 in only five countries – Greece, Israel, Japan, South Korea and Turkey – were the proportions of births out of wedlock below 10 percent.

https://yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/out-wedlock-births-rise-worldwide

 

"Of the 400,000 people in the United States receiving post-divorce spousal maintenance, just 3 percent were men, according to Census figures. Yet 40 percent of households are headed by female breadwinners — suggesting that hundreds of thousands of men are eligible for alimony, yet don’t receive it."


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...2014/11/20/why-do-so-few-men-get-alimony/amp/

 

You're cherry picking. Overall crime is way down.

As for children out of wedlock marriage is a recent thing and if you look back through history monogamous marriage and children raised by both parents is far more common now than in the past history.

Find a measure that demonstrates that morality is decaying.

 

Ok lol

 

Criminal Catholic priests raping kids should give you your answer...

 

Ok, murder is bad but has happened since day one.

"Hate crimes", "school shootings" may have increased but they are just newer ways to kill people one doesn't like.....again , humans have been doing that since day one.

...and none of that has anything to do with "morals" or "moral decline"

 

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Ya, they usually make more than women.

Was that before or after the divorce?

So why don't men ask for it? If they are eligible, feminists have made it possible for them to get it ….it isn't automatic, one has to ask for it.

 

Rising rates of children out of wedlock rising rates of hate crimes rising rates of school shootings declining rates of marriage has nothing to do with morals......... Ok lol

 

I'm just reporting the facts idk what to tell ya.... Feminists made it so almost no men get alimony even though 40% of women were the primary bread winners. I believe it lol

 

I explained it in the post of mine you quoted:

FoxHastings said: ↑
Ok, murder is bad but has happened since day one.

"Hate crimes", "school shootings" may have increased but they are just newer ways to kill people one doesn't like.....again , humans have been doing that since day one.

...and none of that has anything to do with "morals" or "moral decline".

Some people do not think having a kid out of wedlock is immoral, some people do not think divorce is immoral, some people don't think waiting to get married until 30-28 years old is immoral,

 

HOW did feminists make it so no men get alimony ?

 

Ya they definitely treat men the same when the man wants alimony lmao

 

Right because it's clearly shown that our morals have shifted which lead to things like more fatherless children more school shootings and more hate crimes?

Tell me do YOU think school shootings are MORAL????

 

Sorry, I don't use Hollywood gossip as my "go-to " for facts....nor does one questionable story change anything I've posted .


FoxHastings said: ↑
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Ya, they usually make more than women.


Was that before or after the divorce?


So why don't men ask for it? If they are eligible, feminists have made it possible for them to get it ….it isn't automatic, one has to ask for it.

 

"feminists have made it possible for them to get it"

Have they? That's why men don't????

Tell me do YOU want men NOT to have alimony???

 

I explained it in the post of mine you quoted:

FoxHastings said: ↑
Ok, murder is bad but has happened since day one.

"Hate crimes", "school shootings" may have increased but they are just newer ways to kill people one doesn't like.....again , humans have been doing that since day one.











...and none of that has anything to do with "morals" or "moral decline".

Some people do not think having a kid out of wedlock is immoral, some people do not think divorce is immoral, some people don't think waiting to get married until 30-28 years old is immoral,

Do you ever read the posts of mine you quote?