Times when you hate to be right...

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  1. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Tell that to the victims families..
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/15/why...ing-at-americas-deadliest-mass-shootings.html
     
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    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    And then there this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-the-guns-used-in-chicago-actually-came-from/
    https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-gun-corridor-iron-pipeline-20151028-story.html

    https://www.versustexas.com/criminal/gun-trafficking/
     
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    vehicles are also registered to help cops track down theft, settle court accident cases, etc. the stupid analogy of your property not needing either is absurd, as you have to have PROOF OF SALE RECEIPT....the person who sells it to you damn sure will have that vehicle licensed and registered. Either way, the paper trail exist.
     
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    Clarification:

    https://www.versustexas.com/criminal/gun-trafficking/
     
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    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    and then there's this. Sorry, you can't escape what is:

    https://www.npr.org/2018/02/28/588861820/a-brief-history-of-the-ar-15
     
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    Yes, but if they don't have free access to a plethora of tools to act on their diseased mental state, you have less death of innocent people. That's just common sense.
     
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    So you're describing a police situation that catches law breakers. Why do you have a problem with putting such requirements on gun show sellers and private sellers, much less the buyers? As I said, my proposal won't stop all crime in this ilk, but it can limit them....just like your example. the alternative status quo just leads to the current problems...you would look silly to say that's better than the minor inconvenience of license and registration.
     
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    Assault the enemy? LMFAO!

    The spear was designed to assault the enemy.
    The bow and arrow was designed to assault the enemy.
    The musket was designed to assault the enemy.
    The six shooter was designed to assault the enemy.

    What "later commercials" are you fricking talking about?
     
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    The point betng criminals do not obey the law. I carry a gun to protect my family from them. It is my constitutional right to do so. That will never change.
     
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    The CDC admitted that the 1994 AWB ban had zero impact on reducing crime.

    The AR-15 was not banned under the 1994 AWB...
    https://www.quora.com/Is-it-mislead...ant-number-of-people-killed-in-mass-shootings
     
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    Did you like the Citizens United ruling?
     
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    It's not my personal opinion. It is fact. Educate yourself...
    https://www.constitution.org/cons/wellregu.htm
     
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    How many mass shootings were with guns that weren't bought through an FFL dealer?

    Criminals get there guns on the black market just like druggies get their illicit drugs on the market.

    Try to keep up.
     
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    "Were we alone when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"

    -Cory Booker
     
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    Thanks for another well written, well reasoned Post.

    Further evisceration of the 2nd Amendment by adding additional gun control laws is not only ineffective but it is counterproductive in that it diverts time, resources and energy away from the genuine solution which is fixing America's broken mental health system.

    It is, of course, cheaper & easier to fabricate additional do-nothing laws than to make mental health treatment more accessible but effective measures are rarely cheap or easy.
     
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    Exactly. The real solution is complex and difficult, because it involves raising the character and maturity of society. That calls for great role modeling in leadership, respect for right and wrong including when it doesn't benefit you, rebuilding the family and home environment so we nurture health kids who are equipped to deal with real life- and putting a stop to the promotion of dependence on government for things we should do for ourselves. That is a long-term project, not one a politician can profit from at the next election, and not one where influence can be sold to big corporations. It all comes down to character. Ours.
     
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    That doe
    Nothing in that contradicts what I posted. It says nothing about the AR-15 being adopted as a training rifle, or the fact that you posted that erroneous statement.

    "Yet the AR-15 original design was to sell to the military as a trainer."
     
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    No you don't. I can buy a car an drive it on my property with no proof of sale. And, I can buy a vehicle that is not licensed or registered. (yes, I'll have to get it carried by trailer to my property). There is no need to have any sort of registration or proof of anything for a car used only on my property. It doesn't even have to be street legal.
     
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    There is no evidence that you are correct. The deadliest school shooting (the VT shooting) would still have occurred, AWB or not, as pistols were used.

    My point is that your side is just insane, and bases things on feelings and insanity rather than reality. There is no better response to show that than humor. Obviously you have no sense of humor.
     
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    Actually, in Heller, SCOTUS ruled that you are wrong. The 2nd Amendment is primarily for self defense. You should read Heller and McDonald.
     
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    No it isn't, the public has a plethora of tool without firearms, explosives and poison gas are not that hard to make. Auto's and trucks make much more lethal killing machines than guns as we have already seen. So long as people want to kill, they will. To believe otherwise is naive and childish.
    Until you are honest about what is driving people to commit desperate acts, and do something about it, the killing will continue. You will not feel safe.
     
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    Why have any laws then?

    By the way I have "punished my server" often and it has no effect...
     
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    We're talking about the AR-15, my chuckling buttocks losing friend. That you lamely try to dodge the FACT as to what that it was designed for MILITARY use as an assault weapon is irrelevant.

    And for the love of God, please do your own homework. A simple google search of "commercials for ar-15" would diminish your ignorance on the subject.
     
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    I really tire of that stupid reiteration of a moot point in your first sentence. No shyte Sherlock! and unlike a Warner Bros. cartoon, guns don't spring tiny sneakered feet and chase people around shooting at them. People do kill people....sometimes (a lot of times) with guns. But if you limit the type of weapons on the open market, and make responsible, law abiding folks to license and register their guns like cares, the bad guys and crazies would be hesitant if not reluctant to try and purchase the ones that like the most for their deeds. The OP does NOT prohibit your Constitutional right to a gun, or a CCW or OCW permit....it just says YOU can't have ANY gun you want just because. Like the song lyric goes, …"you can't always get what you want. But if you try sometime, well you just might find, you get what you need!"
     

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