Iran fired cruise missiles in attack on Saudi oil facility: Senior US official

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  1. Jeannette

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    Lebanon was separated from Syria by the French and established as a predominantly Christian country. It was the richest nation in the Middle East before the Palestinians came, so you're wrong Margot.

    Lebanon's relations with Israel at the time was excellent, and I recall them saying how they would watch the Israeli jets flying towards Syria. My question is and has always been, why did the Palestinians end up in the only Christian nation in the Middle East and why didn't the rich Arab nations take them in? Looks like they had an agenda there.

    I read once that any land Muslims have lived on must always be a part of Islam. If the Palestinians were to settle in the rich Gulf states, they wouldn't want to fight to take back Palestine. Their suffering is considered their fate in life by other Muslims.

     
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    Hopefully this happens, but we will see.

    We just need to keep up the pressure, don't trade with Iran and continue sanctions with anyone who does.

    What they are doing is just flat out ridiculous, then you have idiots in this thread saying "Saudi Arabia deserved it"

    And they think comments like these are going to welcome them on the world stage. Saudi Arabia definitely does some horrible stuff, along with all nations, but what Iran does is flat out evil. The worst part is then they just "fake news" lie about it.

    Just keep up the pressure, no trading with Iran PERIOD, and continue sanctions against other nations who do trade with them.

    Let their economy crumble and their people suffer for their horrible decisions.
     
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    He/she is super angry that the world isn't just letting them attack whoever they want.

    Now we are stepping up and telling them how evil they are. Their fake news stories are laughable at best, so we just need to keep the same pressure up.

    It is obviously working, they are flailing out and attacking anyone in their area, saying dumber and dumber things, and have supporters like the OP here, making more and more people flat out hate Iran.

    I am excited because I am hopeful this can bring a bit more "peace in the middle east". It seems like more and more nations are jumping on board of the "Iran is causing problems and needs to be isolated" idea. Saudi Arabia and Israel are talking more than ever, hopefully this coopertaion continues against Iran and grows in strength.

    Again, we all just need to keep doing what they are doing. Iran is slowly failing and is looking for any opportunity to "flip the script".

    We just need to point out how ridiculous the things they are saying is.

    Their economy is failing, yet they continue to support terrorists group in Yemen, Gaza, Iraq and god knows where else.

    MAKE IRAN BROKE AGAIN!!!!!
     
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    I Like to hunt. So yes bring them
     
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    empathy perhaps. (terrorists, your interpretation)
     
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    That's all the EU and China needs is for the oil facilities in Iran to be destroyed. Oh well, Russia and the US will survive and make a fortune while the world starves.
     
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    I totally agree

    The US pressure is working

    So there is no reason for US forces to attack iran

    But I expect the Saudi’s will counter-strike, maybe with our assistance
     
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    Violence begets violence

    Its difficult to see how iran hopes to benefit from a general war in the Gulf

    But they appear bent in that direction
     
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    Iran has about 150 fighters and most of them are 70's MiG's.

    Saudi Arabia on the other hand, has more than 300 modern F-15 fighers, Typhoons and many others that are far superior. We don't need to do a darn thing and hopefully we don't other than command and control.

    Our Aiges systems can provide a missile shield across the gulf, our AWACS can command and direct and our surface fleet can make sure none of their so called "fast boats" (civilian wake boarding boats basically) from coming across the water.

    Iran's military is INCREDIBLY weak, they have people sure, but the Iraq war proved that is pretty much useless.

    Sorry, long winded way to say I agree with you....
     
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    You just answered your own question, Iran is hoping your quote is true.

    They are hoping the US overreacts and loses the moral authority that Iran has completely obliterated by attacking international shipping, bombing oil facilities and god knows what else.

    We should do nothing offensively, for now .....

    I think our "Red Line" shouldn't be anything except for letting Saudi Arabia off the leash
     
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    Yes. I know Lebanon quite well. I have been there many times.. Had classmates who went to ACS and AUB. I remember seeing the refugee camps near the Beirut airport in the early 1950s... every year right up to the six day war. Lebanon did NOT have good relations with Israel.

    The Palestinians ended up in Lebanon because that is as far as they could walk with their children and belongings. The demographics of Lebanon changed dramatically almost over night.

    The Gulf States weren't rich in 1948 or 1956, but many Palestinians did go there and also to Jordan, Syria and so forth. Most of the refugee numbers in those first years from 1947 thru 1956 or so run to 700,000 people.

    Now you speak for what other Muslims think of Palestinians?
     
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    Everyone seem to look at the US for what happens next.
    I think everyone should look at Saudi Arabia, not us. Their territory was attacked, so they are the ones who must respond.
    From North American continent, I couldn’t care less about one country bombing another. If SA does nothing then why should we even care?
     
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    You can call it whatever you want, but they are using violence against people they disagree with in lands that are not their own.

    Apparently you are ok with that, it says a lot about people who do.

    I thought it was wrong when our nation did it in Iraq and Afghanistan and I think it is just as wrong now when Iran does it in Israel and Yemen.

    The question is, why you ok with such hypocrisy?

    Is it just because it goes with your political agenda?
     
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    Do you remember during the Obama administration when half of Iran's tanker fleet was parked and being used for storage?

    Tankers storing crude, not delivering it
    iran-times.com/tankers-storing-crude-not-delivering-it
    A further five of Iran’s nine Suezmax tankers, with a capacity of one million barrels each, are also parked offshore with oil aboard, they said. That means that of Iran’s 59-million-barrel fleet of VLCCs and Suezmax sized tankers, 33 million barrels of capacity are being used to store crude at sea in the Persian Gulf, or 56 percent of the fleet.
     
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    For all those who love war, how about bombing this terrorist State

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20190917-israel-behind-strike-on-iraq-syria-border/

    I read earlier that this resulted in ten people being killed -- and yet this attack by the Houthis killed no one - it appears the Sauds appear too embarrassed to admit they could not stop the attack.

    However, Israel strike ten dead

    Houthi strike none dead.
     
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    I think we should proceed cautiously

    The first step should be to make sure iran cant destroy any more oil fields and facilities

    So we should do nothing till that problem is solved
     
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    Iran and Progressives are literal allies, it isn't even debatable anymore
     
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    I don't know if that is possible with the new "drone tactics" that Iran and Houthis are using.

    The only thing that might work in this case is an offense, but hopefully you are right and SA can come up with some sort of defensive tactic against this.
     
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    I assume it can be done
     
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    What does "progressive" mean to you? Most Americans know very little about the Middle East no matter which party they belong to.
     
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    Comparing Iran and Saudi Arabia militarily is ridiculous. Iran is capable of fighting on its own. Saudi Arabia cannot throw dart at Iran without full US protection, support and backing. And even with that, they will be smashed if they are foolish enough to even throw that dart.
     
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    Is China still taking some oil from Iran?
    Did Iran build a pipeline up to the Pakistan border?
     
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    Oh, then bombing Saudi Arabia's oil facilities is more evil that killing Yemenis? Interesting!



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    I am no military authority on iran or Saudi Arabia

    What I do know is that iran has a larger population, has proven to be intelligent and clever, and is stocked with muslim wackos who are eager to die for allah

    So I wont underestimate them
     
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    You are using violence against them.
    We do not know who did this strike. New information suggests it was the Houthis. Saudi Arabia has been responsible for the death of we do not know how many people in Yemen, children doing particularly badly. Saudi Arabia has been able to destroy the infrastructure of Yemen and cause famine and an inability to get proper treatment for I think Cholera.

    Why on earth do you believe it is fine for those who America supports to destroy people just because they are poor and then to get so upset if by chance they are able to hit back after countless years. This is lack of heart, lack of empathy for suffering people.
    The people of Palestine/Israel who have been kept prisoner for over 50 years, who are used for target practice every Friday and who are having their land taken away from them have it would appear only one right - to fight back against.

    Apart from one report which suggested the Zaidi originally came from Persia, any help from Iran certainly up to recently has been minimal - though of course now you have decided to destroy Iran, a situation completely of the uS making, it is to be expected that they will come together as the ME goes up in flames.

    The previous President of Yemen wanted the US to annihilate the Houthis so he told them that they were working with Iran. The US did research and discovered this was not true. It only changed its mind when it started supporting the Saud's etc destroying one of the poorest people in the world - a situation which the UN has been saying is the worst humanitarian situation in the world for several years now. The Houthis are the original inhabitants of North Yemen, if they can find a way to stop their people being so treated by the US and the Sauid's and did not take it, that would be criminal.
     

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