The moral decay of society

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Nonnie, Sep 14, 2019.

  1. TurnerAshby

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    Nikoclas Cruz- adopted at Birth adopted dad dead when Cruz was 6
    Stephen Paddock- father was in prison since he was 6
    Seth Ator- Parents divorced when he was 5
    Maya Elizabeth McKinney (transgender student) - father deported multiple times
    Trystan Andrew Terrell- mother died when he was 14 yrs old of cancer
    Gary Montez Martin- parents were never married
    Zephen Allen Xaver- parents divorced
    Juan Lopez (mercy hospital)-raised by mother
    Ian David Long (thousand oaks)- father died of cancer when he was young
    Robert Bowers (tree of life)-mom and dad divorced when he was 1, Dad raped another woman when he was 6 and then he killed himself
    Snochia Moseley- father was unknown
    Jarrod Ramos- parents divorced
    Tahaji Wells- Never knew his father
    Gabe Parker- Parents divorced

    Shooters since oct 1 2017 confirmed family problems
     
  2. TurnerAshby

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    Why so the goal posts can shift again.... I think not
     
  3. Derideo_Te

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    Failure to provide a CREDIBLE SOURCE says VOLUMES!
     
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    WRONG again!

    Only the relevant part needed to be quoted and NOTHING was changed.

    No one is obliged to quote the the flamebaiting in the rest of the quote.
     
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  5. FoxHastings

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    :) Funny...good post !
     
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    Failure to credibly substantiate is a de facto dismissal of the allegation.

    Have a nice day!
     
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  7. FoxHastings

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    Uh, it didn't work...….the product was flawed from the start and hasn't really changed since Day One.
     
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    Why?
     
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    Only if it's in the interest of the children...Custody is not awarded because men whine...it's awarded based on the children's needs

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    and remember the burden awarding custody to men places on their mothers and girlfriends who end up doing HIS job and taking care of HIS kids....I have NEVER seen anything different whether men had custody or visitation rights...Grandma and girlfriend were dumped on to take care of HIS kids.


    The TRUE fact is men do NOT want to b tied down by their kids and would rather "send a check"
     
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    FreshAir said:
    or dead beat moms, I say the courts should award children 50\50, men should get the children as often as women.. equality



    The awarding of custody is based on the CHILDREN'S needs NOT who got custody in the last case on the docket.

    If a spouse is abusive and/or jobless and/or homeless or a drug addict or neglectful then custody is awarded to the more competent spouse.

    This is in the interest of the CHILDREN.


    The spouse not awarded custody has every right to fight the decision.
     
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  11. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry you see a "hidden insult" here. None was intended. You said this:
    In a very broad sense, secular humanism is man’s best hope for the future, as long as it’s fundamentals are rational and not supernatural (mystical).
    Secular humanism.....a religion, is your preference over other religions (implied). My personal definition, and one in line with the SCOTUS, would be an organized effort by man to reach perfection. In the Christian World it might be "mans effort to reach God." That is why I refer to my "faith".......which is "my acceptance of what God has done for me". It is through that act, I might come closer to perfection, but only achieved through "grace".
     
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    I can't imagine the incredibly long list of perverts and criminals who had two parents....I bet it's much longer than your list :)


    Are all pedophile priests products of one parent?
     
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    I have no objection to prayer; I do it myself.

    My objection is when our elected officials violate the spirit and the letter of the First Amendment by bringing prayer and religious superstition into the state house, into politics.

    Keep prayer in churches, homes, wherever, but NOT in the state house.
     
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  14. Eleuthera

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    They may be paying taxes as they should, but they are not going anywhere. Trump has gone to the breakfast, and makes no bones about being "Christian" even as he separates families at the border.
     
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    Foul! Trump enforced long standing law, the illegals are responsible for 'separation" at the Border.
     
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    So your prayers are not based on the superstitions you mock? Have you ever been to Washington D.C.? Have you seen all the faith based promises on the monuments there? Do you realize what you call "the separation of Church and state" was only to be applied to the State sponsoring a particular denomination as England and the Church of England or Italy and the Roman Catholic Church? Our coinage states "In God we Trust". We can allow interdenominational prayer to that God. If you object to that, I would like to know what is your objective in prayer? To summon some type of electrical energy in yourself?
     
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    I'm a New Testament guy, and a fan of some of St. Paul's writings: The letter of the law gives death, the spirit of the law gives life.

    Separating families in the name of the law is barbarism. Doing it in the name of Jesus is blasphemy.
     
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    All those silly questions, and not one single reference to the First Amendment. Your intolerant slip is showing, as is your disregard for the First Amendment.
     
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    Praying to any specific deity at official government events and facilities is a violation of the 1st Amendment as it pertains to the separation of church and state.

    It isn't about you or anyone "taking a backseat" to anything. It's about keeping religion out of politics and public life. You do your thing, I'll do mine, everybody is happy. Or should be, anyway.
     
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    Secular Humanism is grounded in reason and reality; Mysticism (religion) is based on faith and the supernatural. Secular Humanism is to religion what Astronomy is to Astrology, or if you prefer, what chemistry is alchemy.

    I don’t have to relay on faith to know man—all I need do is fly to LA, drive to the Mohave Desert, and watch SpaceShipOne pierce the heavens like an arrow through the sun. Faith didn’t make it happen, the reasoning mind did, not by faith in the unprovable, but by thinking about and acting on the real and knowable.
     
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    Faith is the antithesis of reason.
     
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    Of course I referenced the 1st amendment. Show me where I referred to the "establishment" of a religion? You are just against the expression of religion.
     
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    Secular Humanism, the belief mankind is the center of the universe and holds all the answers, was defined by the SCOTUS as a religion. It takes a degree of faith to believe as you do. I don't have that faith.
    When you fly to LA, you have faith your plane doesn't go down. They do sometimes. There is something greater than yourself in control.
     
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    I disagree, the decline in morality worldwide is a symptom of a much greater problem, and the problem is the basis of the current world cycle in which we now exist. Morality is based in the realization of the immutable law of cause and effect. What religion(s) have done is to successfully obscure and divorce reasoning (scientific, i.e. actual factual reasoning) from what is referred to as spirituality, which is gay because there is no such thing as "spirituality", only scientific reasoning and the observance to the main principle, the first law of Creation, which is Cause and Effect/ Action and Reaction.
     
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    When your reason doesn't satisfy and you need answers to questions like, "why am I dying?" Reason goes out the window. You are no longer in control.
     

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