Horror as Sheriff's Deputies Find 2,246 Aborted Babies at Abortion Doctor's Home

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gross!
     
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    That's not really true. The problem is, most of what passes for "oversight" are thinly veiled attempts to get rid of abortion by removing availability. Things like requiring admitting privileges at local hospitals without any type of unbiased system for a doctor to get those privileges that aren't purely in the hands of hospital administrators, who can easily be pressured by state and federal officials to not grant them.

    If you want more oversight, try supporting people and measures that do it without a pre-existing goal of stopping all abortions.
     
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    Another Abortionist Sicko. Between this and PP chopping babies up to sell them for parts, clearly much more regulation is needed for the abortion industry.

    Abortionist Ulrich Klopfer kept thousands of dead babies but inspires little curiosity. “It is a story out of a horror movie: A garage full of baby parts, a sketchy rural abortionist and a culture that avoids hard questions.”

    Well, Rule #1 in our culture is that you can’t make women feel bad about their life choices. And as for Rule #2, well:

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  4. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Im not sure throwing them in the scrap bucket is any better. I disagree with you on more regulation. If someone wants an abortion, you and I can disagree all we want, the government has no business telling people what to do with their bodies or their firearms. Lets not pretend that more government leads to improvement.
     
  5. Zorro

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    I agree with the root of your position, but with some other thoughts added in. In our society of ordered liberty, we understand the need for sensible regulation. This is the second abortion nightmare, and Gosnell, in addition to very exploitative unsanitary conditions, was also convicted of multiple murders in the course of his practice. So keep that in mind, I would argue that the State failed it's role to reasonably regulate his practice,

    Then take Planned Parenthood, chopping up babies for the sale of their parts. Where were the regulators of those clinics engaged in that barbarianism on what appears to be a national scale? Nobody in any city ever did so much as a walk-through to ensure sanitary conditions?

    And then you have this most recent guy, with baby parts from 2,246 different babies stashed in his home? WTH? Gosnell also had fetal body parts stashed about in his clinics.

    So, very quickly I see some sensible regulatory opportunities:
    1. We have regulation requiring the proper disposal and transportation automotive fluids and asbestos plus a thousand other things, but it would be an encroachment on our Liberty to have regulation of the disposal and transportation of the remains from abortion?
    2. It would be an encroachment on our liberties to ensure that abortions are being conducted in facilities that meet surgical standards for cleanliness and disinfecting of operating equipment and surfaces?
    3. It would be an encroachment on our Liberties to require that abortionists have admitting rights to and are in the proximity of surgical centers in the event a medical emergency develops that requires rapid emergency room intervention?
    These Leftists just LOVE regulating everyone else, so hell yes, I'm for better regulation of the abortion industry.
     
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  6. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suppose requiring sanitary conditions is not unreasonable.
     
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    How about requiring respectful disposal that is able to verify that they aren't being chopped up for sale of body parts as well as ensure that if they pulled the baby out piece by piece, that they got everything? Both Gosnell and this latest sicko were ratholing fetal body parts all over the place, PP is selling them all over the place, clearly no one is effectively tracking the fetal remains.
     
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    I would rather see the parts donated than go to the scrap bucket. Whatever the patient decides is fine with me.
     
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    Makes sense, but, clearly moms never approved of these two abortionists stashing body parts all over, or of PP using their babies as supply their chop shop trade. But, enough regulation to ensure that the mom's wishes are being complied with, makes sense.

    Your thoughts on whether mom should be able to sell her aborted babies body parts for a profit?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The question has to be asked whether these women knew what would be happening to the bodies of their fetuses, or whether they even cared.

    I'm guessing most likely they were trying not to think about it at the time.
     
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    They certainly didn't consent to it, so who did?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It might have been buried in the fine print. A lot of times these women are handed all sorts of papers and forms to sign after the drugs they've been given have already begun to take effect.

    Under those conditions, a woman could have signed away her firstborn and not been the wiser.
     
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    You think you are describing informed consent?
    Nobody grated PP permission to chop up those babies and sell them for parts.
    No one granted those two abortion sickos permission to stash baby parts all over their offices and homes.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was just listening to the radio and heard something interesting. Apparently this abortion doctor grew up in Dresden, Germany during the Allied fire bombing raids and he saw lots of people dying all around him, and people being burned alive, in his childhood.
    He is reported to have told his daughter that it had an irreparable effect on him.

    It's a very interesting backstory in light of all those fetuses he has since been discovered to have been collecting.

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/17/abortion-doctor-fetal-remains

    interview that was conducted while the doctor will still alive:

    “The effects of the war may have probably not have had a positive effect…on my perception, okay?” he said to Archer.

    “On your perception of what?” Archer asked him, to which Klopfer responded, “Of human beings… what they do to each other.”​
     
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    They'll go to laboratories or the incinerator.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or they could be used as props in a Haunted House for Halloween.
     
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    Phooey, Kazenatsu!
     
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    A woman who had an abortion by the late Dr. Ulrich Klopfer says “the wound has been cut open again.”

    “I feel like I have been violated all over again,” said Serena Dyksen, who had an abortion by Dr. Klopfer.

    https://wsbt.com/news/local/2000-fetal-remains-discovered-women-wonder-if-the-remains-belong-to-them


    Serena Dyksen of Elkhart said Klopfer aborted her fetus at his South Bend clinic in 1988 when Dyksen was 13. She hopes to sue Klopfer's estate to find out through DNA testing “if my daughter was one of the babies on his property. If he could have the babies all these years later, I have a right to know if she was one of them.”

    https://www.journalgazette.net/news/local/20190917/probe-sought-into-ex-abortion-doctor
     
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    No, medics in general. Look up horror stories from the USA about illegal plastic surgery

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    Medicine MUST be controlled and that also means legal
     
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    Oh Christ! She's playing the victim who deserves millions (no doubt) in damages and emotional distress. Had she had her own way her fetus would have ended up in a heap of slop in a South Bend dumpster ..... or floating with turds in the sewage system. She thinks she has "a right to know"? Personally, I don't think she has any rights what-so-ever.
     
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    Your photo is a mild example.
     
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    Normally all that would be true.
    Except she was 13 at the time, she was likely pressured or coerced.

    I think her age at the time drastically changes things, and gives her a right to that fetus she might not otherwise have.
     
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    Is it your opinion then that 13-year-old girls generally prefer to have a child at that age and are willing to be mothers? Stop and think before you answer.
     
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    Gee, that sure doesn't show much respect for those remains of "PRECIOUS LIFE" Anti-Choicers clamor about......….why would abortion be a problem for you if you find it funny and human remains are Halloween props?
     
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    NO, her changing her mind gives her NO rights whatsoever to sue...

    She's just looking for money, she had NO "daughter", she had no "baby"...…


    So what if one of his specimens is her aborted FETUS????? What's she going to do ? Bring it to life??
     
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