When you're up to your navel in climate change, will you continue to wet yourself?

MolonLabe2009 · Sep 19, 2019

Natty Bumpo said: ↑

So, now you are upset if Fox is referenced? (I have cited a wide range of sources regardless of whether I "like" them -
even the neo-nazi Daily Stormer that hails Trumps as "God Emperor!")

Here is what the US government's NSA is telling the crackpots:

This graph, based on the comparison of atmospheric samples contained in ice cores and more recent direct measurements, provides evidence that atmospheric CO2 has increased since the Industrial Revolution. (Credit: Luthi, D., et al.. 2008; Etheridge, D.M., et al. 2010; Vostok ice core data/J.R. Petit et al.; NOAA Mauna Loa CO2 record.)

Scientific evidence for warming of the climate system is unequivocal.
- Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

The current warming trend is of particular significance because most of it is extremely likely (greater than 95 percent probability) to be the result of human activity since the mid-20th century and proceeding at a rate that is unprecedented over decades to millennia.

Earth-orbiting satellites and other technological advances have enabled scientists to see the big picture, collecting many different types of information about our planet and its climate on a global scale. This body of data, collected over many years, reveals the signals of a changing climate.

The heat-trapping nature of carbon dioxide and other gases was demonstrated in the mid-19th century. Their ability to affect the transfer of infrared energy through the atmosphere is the scientific basis of many instruments flown by NASA. There is no question that increased levels of greenhouse gases must cause the Earth to warm in response.

Ice cores drawn from Greenland, Antarctica, and tropical mountain glaciers show that the Earth’s climate responds to changes in greenhouse gas levels. Ancient evidence can also be found in tree rings, ocean sediments, coral reefs, and layers of sedimentary rocks. This ancient, or paleoclimate, evidence reveals that current warming is occurring roughly ten times faster than the average rate of ice-age-recovery warming...

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
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And still way lower than it has been over the last 400 million years...

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14845

Natty Bumpo · Sep 19, 2019

drluggit said: ↑

Of course you did. And how is that working out for you? I get it. You're a denier of the actual science. But it sure was nice of you to cite teen vogue. I do believe that is the most outlandish demonstration yet....
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If your ideological dogma demands that you deny the broad spectrum of sources that cite the cumulative empirical data that results in the climatological consensus, including NASA, that is not surprising.

Geologists are also denounced - by the crackpots who insist the world was created on October 23, 4004 BC

And then, of course, there are also the flat-earthers.

Science can be repugnant to dogmatists when it wreaks havoc with their dogma.

Natty Bumpo · Sep 19, 2019

HockeyDad said: ↑

... Humans are real damn good at moving, it is kind of our specialty.
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Indeed. Since humans first evolved, mass migrations have been an integral aspect of their behavior.

The major displacements forced by anthropogenic climate change have already begun, and are expected to be enormous.

Climate Change Is Already Causing Mass Human Migration
[A]s the world continues to warm, it's expected that global climate change will become another factor driving people to move: to dodge coastal erosion and sea level rise, to follow changes in rainfall, to avoid strengthening storms. Climate change is already inducing marine animals to migrate, and according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change, it's starting to make people move, too.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...ready-causing-mass-human-migration-180949530/

Climate Change Is Already Driving Mass Migration Around the Globe
Given the oversize role that migration plays in our current political discourse, you’d think there would be more emphasis on the one factor military and security experts believe will affect future migration patterns more than any other: climate change.

The U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO), a nonpartisan agency that analyzes and audits federal policy to ensure its efficiency and cost-effectiveness, isn’t going to let the topic go unaddressed.

https://www.nrdc.org/onearth/climate-change-already-driving-mass-migration-around-globe

Natty Bumpo · Sep 19, 2019

kriman said: ↑

Exactly how does that show that 97% of climate scientists agree? It only shows that those who advocate man made global warming are the ones who get published. I want to see a survey that shows 97% of scientists agree. Hint. No such study exists because 97% do not agree.
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The ideologues who are in denial of the science are being marginalized as the empirical data continues to confirm the reality.

I think it best if reputable scientific authorities and government agencies not waste too much time pandering to the few incapable of accepting the science. There is now ample evidence, and if the ideologues still can't deal with it, they probably never will be able to.

Let them believe that it is a "Chinese hoax!" if that is a tenet of their faith. The same goes for those whose notion that the world was created in 4004 BC precludes their accepting geological reality.

Lee Atwater · Sep 19, 2019

drluggit said: ↑

The sea wall at my parents place hasn't experienced any rise, at all in the 60 years the house has been there. None. The Hotels that sit on the beach in Miami are still at the same elevation since they were built. Since the 30s. My assumption is that you like reading science fiction.
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Perhaps, right after you pull your head out of the beach sand, you should make sure you know where your snorkel and mask are.

Faster Than Previously Predicted, Rising Sea Levels Could Submerge Huge Coastal Cities
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2019/05/21/faster-than-predicted-rising-sea-levels-coastal-cities/

HockeyDad · Sep 19, 2019

Natty Bumpo said: ↑

Indeed. Since humans first evolved, mass migrations have been an integral aspect of their behavior.

The major displacements forced by anthropogenic climate change have already begun, and are expected to be enormous.
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Yep because climate change affects white first world nations positively and third world nations negatively, it will be our moral responsibility to move every last 3rd world brown person to a white country. It will be nothing but cotton candy and rainbows....

Back here in actual reality, we kind of suspect that the mass migration of 3rd worlders to white countries is driven by greedy corporate elites looking to maximize their wealth and hasn't a damn thing to do with global climate change. Look at the off the chain population growth in Africa......... DAMN....... are we really expected to feed all of those people? Does it ever cross the liberal mind that perhaps there is a limit to the amount of freebies the west can handout to the rest of the world? One look at that chart is all you need to know that a mass starvation event is on the horizon and it hasn't a thing to do with global warming.

kriman · Sep 19, 2019

Natty Bumpo said: ↑

The ideologues who are in denial of the science are being marginalized as the empirical data continues to confirm the reality.
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Why do you believe in man made climate change? One of the following?:

1) You understand the science enough to verify the equations are correct?

2) You believe that 97% scientists believe it?

3) For political reasons?

spiritgide · Sep 19, 2019

Lee Atwater said: ↑

The biggest threat to humanity is ignorance. I'd never call you folks stupid.
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Stupidity is not knowing the difference; thinking you are all knowing and others are "ignorant". Ignorant of your wisdom? Go back to Blah-Blah-Blah. It sounds smarter than when you try to sound logical.

jdog · Sep 19, 2019

The climate is constantly changing and always has. Weather is dynamic and effected by so many factors it is impossible to predict. The earth has swung between Ice Ages and warming periods its entire existence. Anyone who thinks the climate has ever been static, or believes they actually understand or can control the climate is a complete idiot and out of touch with reality.

fmw · Sep 19, 2019

HereWeGoAgain said: ↑

They don't care. They will be dead and they don't give a damn about their kids and grand kids.

And no matter what happens, they will simply deny the facts like they do now.
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What happened? I thought it was all going to be over in 12 years.

Natty Bumpo · Sep 19, 2019

HockeyDad said: ↑

Yep because climate change affects white first world nations positively and third world nations negatively, it will be our moral responsibility to move every last 3rd world brown person to a white country. It will be nothing but cotton candy and rainbows....

Back here in actual reality, we kind of suspect that the mass migration of 3rd worlders to white countries is driven by greedy corporate elites looking to maximize their wealth and hasn't a damn thing to do with global climate change. Look at the off the chain population growth in Africa......... DAMN....... are we really expected to feed all of those people? Does it ever cross the liberal mind that perhaps there is a limit to the amount of freebies the west can handout to the rest of the world? One look at that chart is all you need to know that a mass starvation event is on the horizon and it hasn't a thing to do with global warming.
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Despite hardcore ideologues whose political dogma prevents them from accepting the scientific reality, modest progress is being achieved in the global effort:

It has been a little under four years since 196 countries negotiated the Paris Agreement, under which they committed to taking steps to limit the increase in global average temperature this century to well below 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit) over preindustrial levels, and ultimately to limit that increase to 1.5 degrees C (2.7 degrees F). Under the agreement, each signatory submits its own national plan, setting targets for emissions reductions and specifying pathways by which it aims to meet those targets...

As countries prepare to revisit their targets at the United Nations Climate Change Summit on September 23, here is a summary of some of the leaders...

Top of the class

Morocco: According to CAT, Morocco is one of only two countries with a plan to reduce its CO2 emissions to a level consistent with limiting warming to 1.5 degrees C. Morocco’s National Energy Strategy calls for generating 42 percent of its electricity production from renewables by 2020, and 52 percent by 2030. Already it is at 35 percent, not least because of investment in such projects as the Noor Ouarzazate complex, the largest concentrated solar farm in the world, which covers an area the size of 3,500 football fields, it generates enough electricity to power two cities the size of Marrakesh.

The Gambia: The Gambia is the other country with a 1.5 degrees C emissions reduction strategy. As with Morocco, one of its principal pathways to reduction is the use of renewables, in the form of a program that will increase the country’s electricity capacity by one-fifth partly through construction of one of the largest photovoltaic plants in West Africa. The country has also launched a large project to restore 10,000 hectares of forests, mangroves, and savannas. It is also replacing flooded rice paddies with dry upland rice fields and promoting adoption of efficient cook stoves to reduce the overuse of forest resources.

India: India has emerged as a global leader in renewable energy, and in fact it is investing more in them than it is in fossil fuels. Having established a goal of generating 40 percent of its power through renewables by 2030, its progress has been so rapid that it could easily reach that target a decade early, so there is every opportunity for India to increase that target. CAT calculates that India’s plan is compatible with a 2 degree C increase, but that its National Energy Plan could be 1.5 degrees C compatible if the country abandoned plans to build new coal-fired power plants.

Costa Rica: Costa Rica aims for its electricity production to be 100 percent renewable by 2021. It’s already extremely close: in 2018 it generated 98 percent of its electricity from renewable sources—primarily hydropower—for the fourth consecutive year. Two-thirds of its greenhouse gas emissions are from transportation, and the country has made it a national priority to use renewable energy across its roads and rails. The National Plan for Electric Transportation calls for at least five percent of the bus fleet to be replaced by electric buses every two years, and for at least 10 percent of new taxi concessions to be given to electric vehicles. Additionally, in February 2019 Costa Rica extended a moratorium on oil extraction and exploitation from 2021 until the end of 2050.

European Union: The EU was a comparatively early adopter of climate targets. In 2009, it set a goal of reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 20 percent by 2020; its Paris target increased that to a 40 percent reduction by 2030. Its present policies, if fully enacted, would enable it to exceed that target. In May, the EU formally adopted into law a series of measures that included a binding target for 32 percent of electricity production to come from renewables by 2030. To achieve that figure across the EU, different countries within the bloc have adopted different national targets: For example, for Malta, the goal is 10 percent renewables, while for Sweden it is 49 percent.

CAT calculates that meeting this and other targets contained in the European Commission’s “Clean Energy for all Europeans” package would result in a reduction in emissions of 48 percent by 2030; a separate study has concluded that further improving energy efficiency targets and closing coal power plants across the EU by 2030 would increase that figure further, to 58 percent. However, because the EU is collectively the third-largest emitter of CO2 behind China and the United States, such a target would just place the bloc in range of a 2 degrees C-compatible reduction.

Shows some promise

Norway: Norway’s emissions are projected to decrease by only 7 percent by 2030, and its implemented policies are consistent with warming between 3 and 4 degrees C if all others followed a similar level of ambition. However, there are signs of progress. It has set an ambitious target of reducing emissions by 40 percent by 2030; and it has adopted legislation committing the country to reducing emissions by 80-95 percent relative to 1990 levels by 2050. Its parliament agreed in June to (mostly) disinvest its $1 trillion Sovereign Wealth Fund from oil, gas, and coal, dumping $13 billion in stocks related to fossil fuels (though sparing those belonging to ExxonMobil and Royal Dutch Shell) and diverting resources to renewable energy projects. Norway also leads the world in its embrace of electric cars; almost 60 percent of new cars sold in the country in March were electric. Forest cover is increasing. And electricity production is almost entirely from renewables: 96 percent from hydropower and 2 percent from wind farms.

China: The good news: China is on course to meet its Paris targets. The bad news, according to CAT: Those targets are woefully inadequate, and not ambitious enough to limit warming to below 2 degrees C, let alone to 1.5 C as required under the Paris Agreement, unless other countries make much deeper reductions at comparably greater eﬀort. China’s CO2 emissions—already the largest in the world—grew an estimated 2.3 percent increase in 2018; in fact, with current policies, China’s greenhouse gas emissions are projected to rise until at least 2030, although a recent study concluded they may in fact peak a decade earlier. The Chinese government has heavily subsidized the manufacture of electric cars and has sought to reduce the number of gasoline-powered cars on the road; in 2018, Chinese consumers bought 1.1 million electric vehicles—more than the rest of the world combined. China is the largest manufacturer of solar technology in the world, but it is also the largest consumer of coal, and is financing the construction of coal-fired power stations around the world.

United Kingdom: The U.K. is an interesting case. On the one hand, the country reduced its emissions by 44 percent between 1990 and 2018, even as its economy grew by 75 percent. The government has declared a climate emergency, and in June passed legislation codifying a goal of net zero emissions by 2050. (That was under the previous government; new Prime Minister Boris Johnson has shown support for climate deniers.) However, the government’s own Committee on Climate Change has advised that the country is lagging far behind many of its stated long-term climate goals, and the nation is roiled with political uncertainty that could directly affect policy in this area. Should Britain leave the European Union with a No-Deal Brexit, it would no longer be able to participate in the EU’s Emission Trading Scheme, for example...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/t...ntries-are-reaching-targets/ar-AAHxvkx#page=2
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kriman · Sep 19, 2019

Natty Bumpo said: ↑

Despite hardcore ideologues whose political dogma prevents them from accepting the scientific reality, modest progress is being achieved in the global effort:
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Why do you believe in man made climate change? One of the following?:

1) You understand the science enough to verify the equations are correct?

2) You believe that 97% scientists believe it?

3) For political reasons?

drluggit · Sep 19, 2019

Lee Atwater said: ↑

Perhaps, right after you pull your head out of the beach sand, you should make sure you know where your snorkel and mask are.

Faster Than Previously Predicted, Rising Sea Levels Could Submerge Huge Coastal Cities
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2019/05/21/faster-than-predicted-rising-sea-levels-coastal-cities/
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Your citations get more ridiculous with every post. The idea that something "could happen" doesn't mean it is either likely or immediate. Hyperventilation about it isn't getting you any farther....

Natty Bumpo · Sep 19, 2019

kriman said: ↑

Why do you believe in man made climate change? One of the following?:

1) You understand the science enough to verify the equations are correct?

2) You believe that 97% scientists believe it?

3) For political reasons?
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Across the broad spectrum of various scientific disciplines, I respect the expertise achieved through the scientific methodology of accumulating and analyzing objective, empirical data - achieving knowledge in an ongoing, continually self-corrective process. I don't pretend to possess superior knowledge, but derive what understanding I do have from that scholarship.

Were I hellbent upon clinging to some aberrant notion, e.g., the cosmological model that the earth is the center of the universe and the celestial spheres revolve about it, I would be required to reject science, of course.

Natty Bumpo · Sep 19, 2019

Deniers,

Try to overcome the ideological dogma that instructs you that climate change is a "Chinese hoax."

As difficult as it may be for you to accept, it isn't.

Really.

When NASA confirms anthropogenic climate change, please don't shriek, "Those are the 'liberals' that faked the moon landing!"

kriman · Sep 19, 2019

Natty Bumpo said: ↑

Across the broad spectrum of various scientific disciplines, I respect the expertise achieved through the scientific methodology of accumulating and analyzing objective, empirical data - achieving knowledge in an ongoing, continually self-corrective process. I don't pretend to possess superior knowledge, but derive what understanding I do have from that scholarship.
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Are you claiming that 97% of scientists believe that man is primarily responsible? That 97% believe that they can accurately forecast man's influence? That 97% believe that man can do something about it? If so, show me that study which shows this.

You have been lead down a road by the nose and don't even know it. If you would believe the hype, there is absolutely no question. Not based on some overwhelming evidence or that the vast majority of scientists believe it, but pure hype.

TrackerSam · Sep 19, 2019

Natty Bumpo said: ↑

Indeed. Since humans first evolved, mass migrations have been an integral aspect of their behavior.

The major displacements forced by anthropogenic climate change have already begun, and are expected to be enormous.

Climate Change Is Already Causing Mass Human Migration
[A]s the world continues to warm, it's expected that global climate change will become another factor driving people to move: to dodge coastal erosion and sea level rise, to follow changes in rainfall, to avoid strengthening storms. Climate change is already inducing marine animals to migrate, and according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change, it's starting to make people move, too.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...ready-causing-mass-human-migration-180949530/

Climate Change Is Already Driving Mass Migration Around the Globe
Given the oversize role that migration plays in our current political discourse, you’d think there would be more emphasis on the one factor military and security experts believe will affect future migration patterns more than any other: climate change.

The U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO), a nonpartisan agency that analyzes and audits federal policy to ensure its efficiency and cost-effectiveness, isn’t going to let the topic go unaddressed.

https://www.nrdc.org/onearth/climate-change-already-driving-mass-migration-around-globe
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Your predictions about climate are as accurate as your presidential predictions - wrong.

Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions

The dire predictions, often repeated in the media, warned of a variety of impending disasters – famine, drought, an ice age, and even disappearing nations – if the world failed to act on climate change.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/failed-climate-change-predictions

Doom and gloom. Have any of these end of the world Algorist predictions come true?

Natty Bumpo · Sep 19, 2019

kriman said: ↑

Are you claiming that 97% of scientists believe that man is primarily responsible? That 97% believe that they can accurately forecast man's influence? That 97% believe that man can do something about it? If so, show me that study which shows this.

You have been lead down a road by the nose and don't even know it. If you would believe the hype, there is absolutely no question. Not based on some overwhelming evidence or that the vast majority of scientists believe it, but pure hype.
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Are there other scientific disciplines besides climatology where you are in denial of the scientific consensus?

Why does the ilk of deniers of anthropogenic climate change all espouse the same ideological beliefs?

kriman · Sep 19, 2019

Natty Bumpo said: ↑

Are there other scientific disciplines besides climatology where you are in denial of the scientific consensus?

Why does the ilk of deniers of anthropogenic climate change all espouse the same ideological beliefs?
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There have been repeated claims about this 97% consensus. There has been no such study. Do you like being lied to?

Natty Bumpo · Sep 19, 2019

The basis for 196 sovereign nations pledging to the Accord de Paris is the science.

The following are scientific organizations that hold the position that Climate Change has been caused by human action:Academia Chilena de Ciencias, Chile

Academia das Ciencias de Lisboa, Portugal

Academia de Ciencias de la República Dominicana

Academia de Ciencias Físicas, Matemáticas y Naturales de Venezuela

Academia de Ciencias Medicas, Fisicas y Naturales de Guatemala

Academia Mexicana de Ciencias,Mexico

Academia Nacional de Ciencias de Bolivia

Academia Nacional de Ciencias del Peru

Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal

Académie des Sciences, France

Academies of Arts, Humanities and Sciences of Canada

Academy of Athens

Academy of Science of Mozambique

Academy of Science of South Africa

Academy of Sciences for the Developing World (TWAS)

Academy of Sciences Malaysia

Academy of Sciences of Moldova

Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic

Academy of Sciences of the Islamic Republic of Iran

Academy of Scientific Research and Technology, Egypt

Academy of the Royal Society of New Zealand

Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Italy

Africa Centre for Climate and Earth Systems Science

African Academy of Sciences

Albanian Academy of Sciences

Amazon Environmental Research Institute

American Academy of Pediatrics

American Anthropological Association

American Association for the Advancement of Science

American Association of State Climatologists (AASC)

American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians

American Astronomical Society

American Chemical Society

American College of Preventive Medicine

American Fisheries Society

American Geophysical Union

American Institute of Biological Sciences

American Institute of Physics

American Meteorological Society

American Physical Society

American Public Health Association

American Quaternary Association

American Society for Microbiology

American Society of Agronomy

American Society of Civil Engineers

American Society of Plant Biologists

American Statistical Association

Association of Ecosystem Research Centers

Australian Academy of Science

Australian Bureau of Meteorology

Australian Coral Reef Society

Australian Institute of Marine Science

Australian Institute of Physics

Australian Marine Sciences Association

Australian Medical Association

Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society

Bangladesh Academy of Sciences

Botanical Society of America

Brazilian Academy of Sciences

British Antarctic Survey

Bulgarian Academy of Sciences

California Academy of Sciences

Cameroon Academy of Sciences

Canadian Association of Physicists

Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences

Canadian Geophysical Union

Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society

Canadian Society of Soil Science

Canadian Society of Zoologists

Caribbean Academy of Sciences views

Center for International Forestry Research

Chinese Academy of Sciences

Colombian Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences

Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO) (Australia)

Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research

Croatian Academy of Arts and Sciences

Crop Science Society of America

Cuban Academy of Sciences

Delegation of the Finnish Academies of Science and Letters

Ecological Society of America

Ecological Society of Australia

Environmental Protection Agency

European Academy of Sciences and Arts

European Federation of Geologists

European Geosciences Union

European Physical Society

European Science Foundation

Federation of American Scientists

French Academy of Sciences

Geological Society of America

Geological Society of Australia

Geological Society of London

Georgian Academy of Sciences

German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina

Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences

Indian National Science Academy

Indonesian Academy of Sciences

Institute of Ecology and Environmental Management

Institute of Marine Engineering, Science and Technology

Institute of Professional Engineers New Zealand

Institution of Mechanical Engineers, UK ...

Natty Bumpo · Sep 19, 2019

InterAcademy Council

International Alliance of Research Universities

International Arctic Science Committee

International Association for Great Lakes Research

International Council for Science

International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences

International Research Institute for Climate and Society

International Union for Quaternary Research

International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics

International Union of Pure and Applied Physics

Islamic World Academy of Sciences

Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities

Kenya National Academy of Sciences

Korean Academy of Science and Technology

Kosovo Academy of Sciences and Arts

l'Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal

Latin American Academy of Sciences

Latvian Academy of Sciences

Lithuanian Academy of Sciences

Madagascar National Academy of Arts, Letters, and Sciences

Mauritius Academy of Science and Technology

Montenegrin Academy of Sciences and Arts

National Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences, Argentina

National Academy of Sciences of Armenia

National Academy of Sciences of the Kyrgyz Republic

National Academy of Sciences, Sri Lanka

National Academy of Sciences, United States of America

National Aeronautics and Space Administration

National Association of Geoscience Teachers

National Association of State Foresters

National Center for Atmospheric Research

National Council of Engineers Australia

National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research, New Zealand

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

National Research Council

National Science Foundation

Natural England

Natural Environment Research Council, UK

Natural Science Collections Alliance

Network of African Science Academies

New York Academy of Sciences

Nicaraguan Academy of Sciences

Nigerian Academy of Sciences

Norwegian Academy of Sciences and Letters

Oklahoma Climatological Survey

Organization of Biological Field Stations

Pakistan Academy of Sciences

Palestine Academy for Science and Technology

Pew Center on Global Climate Change

Polish Academy of Sciences

Romanian Academy

Royal Academies for Science and the Arts of Belgium

Royal Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences of Spain

Royal Astronomical Society, UK

Royal Danish Academy of Sciences and Letters

Royal Irish Academy

Royal Meteorological Society (UK)

Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences

Royal Netherlands Institute for Sea Research

Royal Scientific Society of Jordan

Royal Society of Canada

Royal Society of Chemistry, UK

Royal Society of the United Kingdom

Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences

Russian Academy of Sciences

Science and Technology, Australia

Science Council of Japan

Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research

Scientific Committee on Solar-Terrestrial Physics

Scripps Institution of Oceanography

Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts

Slovak Academy of Sciences

Slovenian Academy of Sciences and Arts

Society for Ecological Restoration International

Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics

Society of American Foresters

Society of Biology (UK)

Society of Systematic Biologists

Soil Science Society of America

Sudan Academy of Sciences

Sudanese National Academy of Science

Tanzania Academy of Sciences

The Wildlife Society (international)

Turkish Academy of Sciences

Uganda National Academy of Sciences

Union of German Academies of Sciences and Humanities

United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

University Corporation for Atmospheric Research

Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution

Woods Hole Research Center

World Association of Zoos and Aquariums

World Federation of Public Health Associations

World Forestry Congress

World Health Organization

World Meteorological Organization

Zambia Academy of Sciences

Zimbabwe Academy of Sciences

And the opposing view:

NOTE: Bashar al-Assad is the sole fellow international pariah with Trump,
but there is no reason to suspect that he shares Trump's belief regarding China.

Natty Bumpo · Sep 19, 2019

kriman said: ↑

There have been repeated claims about this 97% consensus. There has been no such study. Do you like being lied to?
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If you prefer your "truth" that it is all a Chinese hoax, you can reject the global consensus, of course.

Natty Bumpo · Sep 19, 2019

Fake Don's crackpot explanation of climate change being a Chinese hoax is not even being promulgated with a straight face by his own regime.

He may be incapable of confronting the reality, and his worshippers may actually swallow such poppycock, but the reality remains the reality:

Senate Democrats released on Thursday a report outlining dozens of times the Trump administration has censored or minimized climate science across the federal government at agencies including the EPA and the Department of Homeland Security.

Sen. Debbie Stabenow, ranking member of the Senate Agriculture Committee, also publicly released a list of more than 1,400 climate studies that Department of Agriculture researchers have published during the current administration after POLITICO reported that USDA buried its own research and failed to release its plan to study the issue. The matter is increasingly urgent for farmers and ranchers dealing with erratic and extreme weather.

The trove of studies by USDA researchers carry warnings about climate change that the government is largely not communicating to farmers and ranchers or the public. The list published includes research showing that climate change is likely to drive down yields for some crops, harm milk production, and lead to a drop in nutrient density for key crops like rice..

The report pointed to ... Trump falsely claiming that Alabama had been under threat from Hurricane Dorian and his subsequent insistence on overruling the forecasting of NOAA scientists. It also noted the government released the Fourth National Climate Assessment — which warned of billions in damages and sweeping effects to public health and infrastructure — the day after Thanksgiving when most Americans are not paying attention to the news.

The roundup includes numerous instances where agencies, including FEMA, EPA, Department of Homeland Security and Interior Department, have dropped mention of climate change from key reports or websites.

“Frankly, this is just an overview because it’s being done every day,” Stabenow told reporters.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/19/climate-studies-hidden-by-trump-administration-1753631
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Darthcervantes · Sep 19, 2019

Stop pretending to give a crap about global warming. You guys are just using it as a tool to garner votes and you ****ing know it!
This is a solvable problem

1 why do items in plastic have 100 more plastic then they need? Take a micro sd cards for example...they are less than a half inch big , yet the wrapping uses enough plastic to cover a Nintendo cartridge

2 telecommuting: the traffic on the roads could easily be cut in half if they would mandate that anyone who can work from home (most only need computer, home, internet) should work from home!

3 solar panels (assuming this wouldn't cause more fossil fuels being used for the production of them)...I'll need to research this more

Thats environment ideas I thought of in between taco farts
Face it, you guys care more about the fact that trump is a climate change denier than you actually care about the problem itself

So instead of solutions you just post a trump tweet? HOW VERY PRODUCTIVE OF YOU!
You should run for office because the lack of solutions in your thread would make you fit right in with the politicians

Dayton3 · Sep 19, 2019

I care nothing for Houston, St. Louis or San Francisco.

More people should live in rural areas anyway.

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