Times when you hate to be right...

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  1. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    It's for the reader to see how your excerpts coupled with your revisionist clap trap compare to actual, comprehensive facts on the subject.

    Quit stalling...either provide the link of Canada commenting on American law effectiveness of the 1994 AWB like you asserted, or ****.
     
  2. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Stop regurgitating NRA mantras and talking points. And since you seriously like to play dumb:

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...60B0F4AFB41384A1B7AF60B0F4AFB41384A&FORM=VIRE

    https://www.businessinsider.com/jason-kander-ar-15-2016-9

    Next you could go and look at the magazine ads over the years. Do your own homework honestly, okay?
     
  3. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Spare us all the generalized smoke blowing. The reality is that the guns used in recent mass shootings could not have been obtained if the 1994 AWB was in play....period. That was the weapon of choice. Couple with the proposal of the OP, and you cut down on mass shooters. Only the insipidly stubborn and indifferent want the status quo to continue without any effort to curtail such.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    FFL dealers are already heavily monitored by the ATF.

    What new laws will stop illegal things from happening?
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Exactly! Now you are catching on.

    "Proper discipline and training" does not mean government controlled or government regulated. It means well-functioning or working in proper order.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    I have no idea what the **** you are talking about. When did I talk about "Canada commenting on American law effectiveness of the 1994 AWB?"
     
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    Guns used in recent mass shootings you refer to most certainly could have been obtained under the 1994 AWB.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lame appeals to emotion are not the basis on which effective policies are made just as attempting to control inanimate objects has no effect on changing human behavior.

    Do you think that some deranged & determined mass killer is just going to go fishing simply because he can not immediately find an AR15 to carry out his "mission"?
    Of course not!
    He'll find or make a device or substance that will kill just as many if not more people such as the two examples I cited: (1), (2)

    There are over 80 countries in the world that have higher homicide rates than America(3) AND they all have draconian gun bans.

    If unconstitutional gun bans were effective in reducing homicides, they should should be effective everywhere.
    Why aren't they?



    (1) "Happy Land fire"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Land_fire

    EXCERPT "González went to an Amoco gas station, then returned to the establishment with a plastic container with $1 worth of gasoline.[2][4] He spread the fuel at the base of a staircase, the only access into the club, and then ignited the gasoline.[5]

    Eighty-seven people died in the resulting fire."CONTINUED


    (2) "The 1927 Bombing That Remains America’s Deadliest School Massacre"

    "Ninety years ago, a school in Bath, Michigan was rigged with explosives in a brutal act that stunned the town"

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...chool-massacre-180963355/#KSipwm4IUrIbB9uc.99

    EXCERPTS "In the end 44 people died, 38 of them students. It wasn’t the first bombing in the country’s history—at least eight were killed during the Haymarket Square rally in Chicago in 1886, and 30 when a bomb exploded in Manhattan in 1920. But none had been so deadly as this, or affected so many children."CONTINUED


    (3) "Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people) - Country Ranking"

    https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5/rankings
     
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    You may be able to cut down on mass shootings, but the people who want to commit mass violence will simply find another method to carry out their agenda.
    There are plenty of readily available ways to do this as I am sure you will realize if you think about it.
    Guns are not the cause of this violence, therefore they are also not the solution.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You seem a bit perturbed. Sorry if you are confused. I am a firearms instructor and Range Safety Officer and live in this world. I am aware of the current federal laws as well as the ones in my own state. I understand you are afraid of guns but if you really want to reduce ANY kind of violence toward others you need to start with your state attorney general followed up with your local Mayor who usually sets the tone with respect to crime prevention, your Sherriff, your police chief, and most importantly the judges that continually DO NOT ENFORCE THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS WITH MAXIMUM SENTENCES.
    When you have done all of the following, I will listen to your tripe about those dangerous guns.
     
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    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Monitoring without the mandates the OP proposes that would make their job a hell of a lot easier and lower the number of atrocities we've witnessed in the last 2 years. How many times are you going to ignore the answer to the same question? Jeez, your insipid stubbornness to avoid conceding a logical point is lame, as you can't even admit error proven by my last post regarding your intellectual myopia.
     
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    I didn't ask for more of your bluff and bluster, I asked for FACTS to back up your assertions and opinions. Stating your alleged job status doesn't cut it, as you can't verify that on this medium (a violation of the rules). As with the majority of gunners on this thread, you just can't cough up a fact based retort to the OP...at least one that can't be deconstructed with ALL pertaining facts. Get back to me when you can.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ate-to-be-right.561198/page-8#post-1070988056
     
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    License and registering guns isn't going to decrease gun crimes.
     
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    GMAFB with your revisionist BS. You and your ilk wail like banshee's that gun ownership without any gov't oversight is just that....OWNERSHIP. Coupling your blathering with being part of a well trained militia or just being properly trained to handle a weapon has NEVER entered the discussion. That is why I gave you that excerpt, genius. To point out a part of the Heller decision that folk like you just love to ignore. That's why we have this https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-easiest-states-to-buy-a-gun_n_5735cfa8e4b08f96c182dc38

    Next time think before you take a condescending attitude...I'm embarrassed for you.
     
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    My bad. Another discussion on another board. My mistake, my apologies.

    Still, my other link gives the reader a truer perspective than your revisionist myopia.
     
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    Proves you don't have to maturity to admit you're wrong on any level. The chronology of the posts shows you made an assertion that was proven WRONG! You feign ignorance as to existence of something and/or claim it doesn't exist. Then you act dumber than you are when confronted with reality. Grow up.
     
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    Wrong, as the MSM has documented six ways to Sunday. If you can factually prove otherwise, please do. If not, stop lying.
     
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    The only person with a condescending attitude is you....I'm embarrassed for you.
     
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    What did I say that was proven wrong?
     
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    The 1994 AWB didn't ban the weapons used in El Paso.
     
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    As the reader can see, Grau just repeats his folly...which changes nothing as to the validity of the OP or my previous post to him. Pathetic parroting on Grau's part, but then conceding a point is not in the gunner manual. That he refers to the surviving family members as "lame appeals to emotion" speaks volumes of the indifference he has to American lives so long as his warped philosophy remains intact. Pathetic.
     
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    We have tens of thousands of Americans killed by drunk drivers every year. They are driving cars that are licensed and registered to someone. In response, we punish the driver. We don't ban cars.
     
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    You're repeating a useless opinion that essentially okay's the status quo....more killings like we've seen recently. To date, the NRA and it's flunkies haven't come up with a solution....they just nay say at the whim of the gun manufacturers lobby....people's lives be damned. My proposal is reasonable and wins for everyone....unless you value paranoia and profits over lives.
     
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    The AWB worked on features. A functional equivalent to today’s firearms could be manufactured and purchased minus a mix and match of threaded barrel, adjustable stock, grenade launcher, pistol grip, and a bayonet lug. A weapon such as an AR-15 was therefore marketed freely as functional equivalent of today’s weapons minus unnecessary cosmetic features.

    Also, existing weapons and magazines were grandfathered so they were still on the open market. These weapons and magazines were available and referred to as pre-ban weapons. The new manufactured models with cosmetic differences were referred to as post-ban. If you were handed both models it’s likely you would not be able to tell the difference. Functionally there is no difference.

    It’s just a fact no matter what inaccurate media you have consumed.

    Here is an overview.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban
     

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