Hamas fires rockets at Israel

On both counts, we will get to see.

 

I am not sure how well Israel is prospering. I seem to remember a few years ago there were many protests about the economic situation. In addition I am forever seeing appeals for 'poor' Israelis.

Israelis will not thrive if there is Armageddon - at least Christian Zionists do not expect them to. We are now seeing that war is changing. It may well be soon that Israel no longer has the ability to tour her neighbours killing at will knowing that people cannot get back to her.

Israel is supported by the American Far Right because they both have in common the desire for ethnic Nationalism. Due to this they also get along with Eastern European countries particularly Hungry turning a blind eye to the rising antisemitism and the concern of Jews living there.

Of course not. Israel uses Palestinians for target practice. People who believe in colonisation, ethnic cleansing and killing of 'the other' will support the current Israel.

 

Indeed! As far as Armenia and the Embassy

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/n...s-caution-on-israel-claims-of-embassy-opening

 

You keep saying this and you keep being wrong. Guess how many countries have their embassies in Jerusalem. Two. One of them of course being yourselves. The other Guatemala

https://www.thejc.com/news/world/wh...embassy-in-jerusalem-interactive-map-1.471208

 

Protestantism was hijacked by Christian Zionism long ago. Even Lord Balfour was an ardent Christian Zionist.

 

and antisemites. The only Jew in the UK who was a Cabinet Member believed the Balfour Declaration to be antisemetic. There are though some Protestants who are not of that kind.

I have recently heard of another concerning Christian cult you have in the US, particularly in Politics - the Family.

 

Christian Zionism is bad theology.. developed for the most part by Cyrus Scofield and Samuel Untermyer.

I have never heard of a Christian cult in the US called "the family".

 

Doing a poll of Jews living under daily terrorist attacks is representative
of the policies of Israel.
I am sure you will find similar sentiment among many Westerners about
Muslims.
And not half but all of the Arab Middle East would probably agree that
Hitler was a good man. You will see Mein Kampf and Protocols of Zion
in most Arab bookshops.

 

Yeah, I see you support the Mullahs of Iran and the Muftis and Hamas of the Palestinians.
But go back to the creation of Israel you will see that most Jews were of the left or even
socialist. Most Jews wanted to live not only in peace with Arabs and alongside them as
well. Most Jews wanted a two state solution with Arabs ruling in Jerusalem (imagine
Americans giving Washington to other nationals, the Anglicans handing over Westminster
Abbey to Catholics or the Vatican handing over their state to the Muslims.)

But... war, endless war, terrorism, more war, more refusals to recognize Israel, more war,
more terrorism, more media attacks, more UN condemnation by people pretending to be
concerned about Palestinians, more war, more stabbings, more rockets, more war, more
UN attacks while allowing Hezbollah to rearm, more war, more media attacks, more killing,
more sabotage, more lies, another 600 rockets in two days, more UNESCO descriptions
of Jerusalem belonging to Islam, more bombs, more bullets, more media attacks, more have
antisemitism, more war, more bomb shelters for the kids, more stabbings, more UN attacks
while Muslims in Thailand lose their land, more buses blown up etc etc etc etc have
ground down the Israeli left wing.

 

yes, I am aware of what Christian Zionism is and their work to make sure the two state solution did not happen along with their requirement that Jews rule Greater Israel prior to Armageddon when most of them die and the ones that remain join their brand of Christianity and they all go off into Rapture while the rest of the world suffers destruction as a result of their work in the creation of said Greater Israel ruled by Jews which leads to Armageddon which their God wants. They also have to get most of the Jews of the world living in Israel. I am guessing that would happen where they get far right rule and ethnic nationalism. They believe they are very near having made their dream come true and clearly have virtually no humanity or care for the world and its people.

I heard about them first from Thom Hartmann and then watched it on Netflix.

I believe they started the National Prayer Breakfast in 1953. It was originally started by I think it was a Norwegian immigrant who was appalled at workers going on strike in the 30's. Heard of Doug Coe?
They love Trump

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...esident-trump-2019-national-prayer-breakfast/

To them 'Jesus' loves the powerful and has no time for the poor.

https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a28676978/the-family-netflix-doug-coe/

 

The Jew government disagrees....
The Jew state is ethnic cleansing and thieving land, with the Torah in their hands.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-minister-this-land-is-ours-all-of-it-is-ours
Israel’s new deputy foreign minister on Thursday delivered a defiant message to the international community, saying that Israel owes no apologies for its policies in the Holy Land and citing religious texts to back her belief that it belongs to the Jewish people.

 

source it

 

Re my quote - "And remember, Arabs stole that land from the people who stole it from the Jews."

Arabs took over the Middle East, including Palestine and Egypt, after the rise of Islam.
"Palestine" belonged to the Jews until the Roman wars of first and second century AD.
After that Palestine was settled by people across the Roman Empire.
A few Jews still lived in the land.
Once Islam was established in "Palestine" the Levant was occupied by the Turks - and
after their defeat in WWI the Jews began returning in greater numbers.

This is all public knowledge. You should know it too.

 

And what does their Torah say about this land?

 

I dont see a source. And I don't see any reference to stealing in what you're putting up now.

 

Well, if taking a country or region by force is not "stealing" then you have
no argument about the Palestinians. ?
Israel existed in the Bronze Age. It's the land of the Jews. Twice they were
driven out of it, by the Babylonians and then by the Romans.
You don't need references for that - first one is in the bible and the second
one was covered by Josephus Flavius in his book "War."
Rome resettled this land. And in the seven century the Arabs occupied it,
driving out, killing or enslaving many of the pagan and Christian inhabitants.
You don't need references for that, either.
These Muslims also tried to take Europe, but the Shiite war at home stopped
this venture. Today many Muslims speak of taking Europe again - by terror,
demographics and conversion.

 

I'm sure deputy foreign minister of Israel knows what she's talking about

 

That's an ambiguous or incomplete statement, with the onus on the reader to figure
out what you mean.
What the Torah says about this land. Here is just one town, chosen at random.

Bethlehem - where King David and Jesus were born, conquered by the Romans AD70
and conquered by the Arabs 637. Under Palestinian control today, has a large Christian
population but is being encroached upon by Jewish settlers.
So who really owns Bethlehem?

 

Forgive me alexa, meant to say in Israel, not Jerusalem.

 

And why shouldn't nations have embassies in Jerusalem?
This city is Israel's capital. It was invaded in the seventh
century by Arab Muslims and returned to Jewish hands in
1967. Jerusalem is the site of Israel's holiest site, the
temple mount. That Jews cannot worship there is an utter
scandal.

 

The WHY is obvious - least pissed, enraged Muslim extremists send their best to kill people and break things. Better be safe than sorry

 

LOLOL.. How many Arab bookstores have you ever visited???

By 1939 every Arab state had signed on with the allies. Hitler thought Muslims were inferior "mud people" just like Greeks, Spaniards, Italians and Jews.

 

Neither the first nor second temple lasted very long. When Omar arrived in 638 AD the Temple Mount was the city garbage dump. The Arabs have been there much longer.

Treaty of Umar
THE TREATY OF OMAR. In 638, after a prolonged siege of Jerusalem, the Muslims finally entered the city peacefully following the signing of a treaty by the Patriarch of Jerusalem and the second Caliph Omar Ibn Alkhattab himself. He is said to have been given the keys to the city by the Patriarch of Jerusalem, Sophronius,...
Reference: aibolita.com/dietetics/29498-the-treaty-of-omar.html​

 

Israel was accepted as part of the two state solution. According to Anthony Lerman a British Jew and expert on antisemitism, antisemitism in the middle east massively diminished when people thought there was going to be an acceptable solution. Unfortunately this did not happen. Moving to Jerusalem would be accepting the final Colonisation of Palestine by the Israelis and all that entails. I don't see it happening in a time of peace as it goes against all International and Humanitarian Law.

 

It sounds like you're trying to justify ethnic cleansing of Muslims in a similar manner to the ways in which people attempt to justify the persecution of Jews over the centuries.
Asserting basically that: "All Muslims are terrorists so its OK to expel / exterminate them." is no more a justification for ethnic cleansing than: "All Jews are _______ so it's OK to expel / exterminate them."

The difference in Palestine, however is that the vast majority of Palestine was predominately Muslim with Jews comprising only 2% - 4% of Palestine's population in the late 1800s.
Naturally the Palestinian Muslims resisted the invasion of violent, FOREIGN, well armed & well trained Zionist terrorist gangs just as they resist Israel's ruthless & internationally condemned Occupation, today.

Can you name any people who have not resisted foreign invaders who came from afar to destroy their culture, steal their land & herd them into densely concentrated open air prisons such as Gaza?

Of course the Palestinian Muslims are resisting the world's oldest, most brutal, foreign funded occupation.
Anyone would especially since Israel has rejected any form of realistic peace(2) and left the Palestinian Muslims with no choice except to resist relentless land theft & systematic ethnic cleansing via Israel's "Provoke-then-Massacre" M.O.

"Moshe Dayan, in his diaries said: "Our strategy was always to provoke the Arabs and get an appropriate response so we could attack and smash them."
http://www.sott.net/signs/signs154.htm

It also doesn't matter that many in the West have been deceived via an anti Islamic MSM(1) into disliking Palestinian Muslims.
Ethnic cleansing is wrong no matter who does it and it especially hypocritical for Israeli Jews to exploit the holocaust on one hand while practicing many of its excesses on Palestine's native residents with the other.


(1) "New Study Finds 50-Year History of Anti-Palestine Bias in Mainstream News Reporting"
https://www.mintpressnews.com/new-study-finds-50-year-history-of-pro-israel-bias-in-us-media/254049/

EXCERPT "A study of 50 years of headlines in 5 top newspapers finds that media coverage of Israel-Palestine favors Israel by providing more overall coverage, more positive coverage, and greater access to Israeli voices than to Palestinian ones. Much of this can be attributed to pressure from the pro-Israel lobby."CONTINUED


(2) "Israel Does Not Want Peace"
http://www.haaretz.com/peace/1.601112

EXCERPT "Rejectionism is embedded in Israel's most primal beliefs. There, at the deepest level, lies the concept that this land is destined for the Jews alone.

Israel does not want peace. There is nothing I have ever written that I would be happier to be proved wrong about. But the evidence is piling up. In fact, it can be said that Israel has never wanted peace – a just peace, that is, one based on a just compromise for both sides."CONTINUED