WSJ: Trump colluding with Ukraine

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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I meant Cheryl Mills. We already have an IG report castigating Comey
    as having violated FBI Policy as he leaked.In short Proving that he
    needed to,be fired.Even the vaunted - Washingtion Post - wrote the
    story that - New IG Report Rebukes Comey - Aug.29
     
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    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    https://amp.dailycaller.com/2019/09/22/whistleblower-no-knowledge-trump-call-just-hearsay

    The whistleblower act doesn’t even apply to this idiot.
    Ukrainian foreign ministry itself says the whole thing is a nothingburger:


    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ukraine-trump-zelensky-biden.amp

    So, this whole scandal is over a whistleblower who didn’t even have direct access to the information and over something that the supposed victim, Ukraine, says wasn’t a big deal. Another nothingburger from the Democrats.
    :applause:
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now comes the truly Scary part.The part where this stinkin' rotten Dirty
    Mainstream media is out to Flip a scandal.Make a truly remarkably obvious
    Biden Scandal into a Trump scandal.Meaning Trumpwas Right all along.
    The Press { this Press } IS the Enemy of the People.
    Because we now have the proof.This corrupt Free Press and MSM are
    as I speak doing everything in their power to Make this Biden Outting
    { We have Lunch Bucket Joe } actually On video Bragging how HE
    Threatened to withhold A Billion dollars in aid to Ukraine if their General
    Prosecutor is Not Fired.The one Investigating Lunch Bucket Joe's son
    Hunter and his affiliation and Compensation { receiving $ 83,000 a month
    salary since 2014 }from Ukrainian Natural Gas company Burisma Holding.Where
    Hunter with no experience in the Ukraine let alone an energy company
    was part of the directorship.Making a few Million in the process.
    Talk about Influence peddling.Using a sitting Vice President as leverage
    to ENRICH a family member.
    Again just Imagine if this was Don jr. Or Eric Trump.
    Joe Biden Did Obstruct Justice in the Ukraine.His Big fat lunch bucket
    mouth Confessed to precisely what he did.
    There is NO Debating this.Only Ignoring it and trying to pin the tail
    of this Corrupt Democrat Jackass onto President Trump.
    Meaning ... We the People have to get out and scream bloody murder
    over this.This is Stalinism.Not just Yellow Journalism or a 5th Column.
    But the actual raw corruption in our Midst of a Dirty Party { democrat }
    and their adjunct { MSM } trying to take this country apart.
    For Their benefit.Never for We the People.
     
  4. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Yes, in this case it is OK because he has had to an onslaught of hatred since the day he took office. Defending himself is understandable. So you are saying that the law can't be understandable?

    I understand and don't give a hoot. Yes he gets himself into these messes.
     
  5. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's another Frame-up job with an obvious Obama holdover leaking
    to the Press to not only try and embarrass a sitting President but as
    with the Russian Collusion Hoax turn into an automatic scandal.
    Here's what is taking place.Our Free press and Mainstream media is
    Not Reporting news.Nor merely making it up.They are purposedly
    and with Malice writing headlines first and then filling in the necessary
    blanks later.Blanks that always make Trump out to be the Bad guy.
    A Traitor or a Liar or both.More than 90 % of all News story written
    About our president are Negative.That has never happened in our
    Country before.I blame it all on Obama.He's the man behind the curtain.
    He was elected in 2008 precisely to do this.Thereby explaining why he
    was never vetted.Then as his first Presidential act within 24 hrs. of
    being sworn-in was his First Executive Order EO 13479 which basically
    outlawed/Banned any of his personals.All his Educational Records.Travel
    logs when a teen and later.His Passport ... anything related to his
    Columbia U. attendance.Everything.Even memos while a State Senator
    in Illinois.
    Only now the Hiding or non-vetting is done to help Old Man Joe.
    See how that works.Just like the way - Fast & Furious - was handled.
    It was Not reported on by this shill MSM.Or the way Obama as Commander
    in chief was to this day Never interviewed as to what he was doing the night
    of the Benghazi attack.Imagine that.Especially given he attended a Las Vegas
    fundraiser within 24 hrs. of 4 americans being slaughtered.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    It does not give Trump that right. If the FBI found some indication of wrong doing, it would give them the right and the obligation to investigate. Trump extorting Ukraine demanding they intervene in our elections is not a "right".
     
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    And the Trump appointed IG, who agreed with the whistleblower? Also part of the "witch hunt?"
     
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    Hahaha...so let the "whistleblower" and the IG (whom Trump appointed and agreed with the whistleblower) both come forward and explain to an open congressional hearing, exactly what their concern is.
     
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    Amazing! What do you think Ukrainian officials would say when $250 million are on the line?

    I answered your question, you answer mine!

    Who do you expect to prosecute them? You don't know that Republicans own the AG, SCOTUS, the Presidency, the Senate, and had complete control of Congress for 2 years?

    Will Republicans ever understand that by voting for this idiot, they made him President?

    I answered your question, you had no answer to mine. That says it all about the lack of arguments to support the Criminal in Chief.

    And frankly, it's a shame that so many people have placed cult for a politician before patriotism. Shameful and sad!
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was Biden { Lunch Buckey Joe } who gave an Ultimatum.
    We have him on Video confessing his Ultimatum.
    Not Trump.
    So knock off with the Lies already.It is only going to propel
    Trump more easily into another Term.
    As if being 0 for 19 isn't scummy enough fir yer ilk.
     
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    We only know about the $ 250 Million pay out c/o of a Lying,Cheating,
    Leaking,Corrupt Press and what they Report.
    But we have a Video of Biden Threatening to withhold ONE BILLION
    to Ukraine in aid and they have only 6 hrs. to do as Joe says { Fire a
    Ukrainian General Prosecutor } or else.That is both the epitome of
    extortion,and obstructing Justice.
    Stop trying to Innoculate Old Joe while Framing a sitting President.
     
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    Absolutely hilarious. Giuliani is supposed to get a pass because Trump's State Dept. set up a meeting for him with representatives of Ukraine. R U serious?
     
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    Some liberal media admit now that this scandal might kill joe as the candidate.
    Fun to watch them unknowingly destroying their own candidate, as they blow things out of proportion and now must provide a deeper insight into what the whole thing is about.

    It would be even better if this happened exactly a year from now and it was Biden vs Trump. :)

    On another hand - Trump vs Pocahontas or Trump vs Sanders is going to be a walk for Trump. And Dems are destroying Tulsi themselves.
     
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    Thank you for the partial correction. And, while the IG report was critical of Comey's departure from established FBI policy, I don't think it recommended his firing. And, we both await the new IG report.
     
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    They already got $250M. At this time they could have just stayed silent if they thought Trump did something wrong and allowed this to continue brewing on its own. Ukrainians themselves are saying this is a nothingburger.
     
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    I have no idea what you mean by "the law can't be understandable?" What is it you don't understand about it?
     
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    I confused. Sorry. In the same way I can understand his actions so should the law.
     
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    You have it backwards. His actions are under law. No one is immune. We are a nation under law.
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    So you suggest every single legal peccadillo should be charged and tried? You would bring the justice system to its knees. The law should exercise common sense like the rest of us.
     
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    That question is for the legal system to decide...the prosecutors, judges and juries. You might get closer to your own answer if you read more on U.S. history and the development of our political system.
     
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    My answer was what it was. I understood perfectly. Sorry you didn't.
     
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    stone6 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, I understood you. You believe the President is immune from obeying the law.
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Obviously you don't understand me. I said no such thing.
     
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    Try again.
     
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    Obviously you don't understand me. I said no such thing.
     

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