There's nothing to discuss. Biden used USAid to blackmail Ukraine

A. Bull
B. Bull ,,, Obama told Medvedev to tell his sidekick, Putin, he would have more flexibility to disarm the US after his last election
C. Bull ,,, the Clinton campaign paid for Kremlin provided dirt on Trump with money laundered through Perkins Coie, FusionGPS, and Christopher Steele. The Russian Collusion conspiracy theory was a coverup for Hillary's crimes and those of Obama and his deep state intel agencies.
D. Thanks to Hillary, Obama, Biden, Rosenstein, Mueller, etc. Russia owns UraniumOne, the Clintons and their Foundation are more wealthy by $145M and Bill hauled in $500K for short speech.

 

After eight years of back to back scandals and coverups that characterized the Obama administration with zero repercussions. After the Mueller investigation failed and we learned the goings on between the FBI, the CIA, the Clinton campaign and the Clinton Foundation. After all of the other people in the gravitational pull of this cabal were revealed. After nearly three years of constant barrage of lies and misinformation aimed at the president how could any rational person deny the existence of the Deep State. For eight years of Obama & friends this country was run by a coterie of the most sinister and corrupt criminals this country has ever known. This is the answer to every question about why the Democrats have dodged justice for so long. It is also the answer why it taking so long to finally round them up and deliver the justice well know the deserve.

 

Another thread expressing the longing for the handcuffs and orange jumpsuits that will never come!

 

Typical Moscow Mitch McConnell lies. Bidens did not shake down Ukraine. Obama did not disarm Ukraine. The Uranium One sale was approved of by the US, Canada (which owned the product), and Russia. Our nuclear deterrent grew under Obama.

GOP attempts to evade the truth is paving the road to massive Republican defeat next year.

 

Yeah. The country is going to vote to pay a special tax to give illegals free healthcare, a cash reward for breaking our laws, and for the confiscation of guns citizens need more every day to defend against, for instance, Montgomery County's illegal rapists.

 

But you have no problem with Russian involvement in our election

 

Moscow Mitch McConnell must of told you those lies.

 

Oh boy! An oldie, but goodie. Turn up the volume.

 

Tell us about all the scandals under Obama. If there were so many scandals why did the Republicans just let them go? The Clinton foundation was scrutinized with a fine tooth comb and there was nothing there. Why don’t we talk about trumps foundation which helped nobody but Trump and was forced to disband . The Clinton foundation helps women all over the world
What I find so funny is either the Republicans are totally inept or there was nothing to find....Or maybe it was conspiracy number 2864 where the Republicans are really in cahoots with Hillary because they loved her so much. Are you at least curious about trumps tax returns and why he won’t show them? How about trump university? How about all the bankruptcies he declared so he could screw people?How about paying off women for sex? I guess we just have different values

 

Shut up and dance! The Trumpers love the oldies but goodies!!

 

What a BS stretch of raw fantasy. Look I am not happy with Obamska Zaraza not allowing the Ukies to buy lethal weapons but in 2012 Russia had not yet invaded Ukrainian lands in the Krym ( Crimea) or the Ukrainian Eastern provinces until 2014. So how was Obamska going to be " more flexible" on Ukraine. What the Obamska whimp was talking about was the defensive misses we were planning on placing in Central and Easter Europe that the KGB colonel had a Schiest Fit over.

Obamska showed that he had as much balls as Mike The Eunach Pence with that sorry show.

 

I hate that Clinton enlisted the aid of Russians to provide Christopher Steele with blather for the Dossier he authored. I also hate that the Obama deep state started where Clinton left off using the Dossier to spy on an frame the Trump campaign to coverup the crimes Clinton committed in conspiring with Putin. There was never any evidence that the Trump campaign worked with Russians during the election. In fact, there was evidence that the files posted by wikileaks were downloaded on the East Coast at a transfer speed more like a thumb drive like Seth Rich would use than the internet. It was further proven when Russians responded to Mueller's indictment -- the one he got for effect --- and Mueller had no evidence to confront them with. Surprise, surprise.

 

The p.ravda is that the IMF and EU countries were pushing Ukraine to get rid of the Prosecuter General who was too tied in with the oligarchs to actually bring charges of corruption against them. You should understand that it is just like Barr will not bring any indictments against Trump or any Trumpettes when and if they commit criminals acts.

 

I agree, Putin didn’t invade until he was easy on Obama in 2012, and the return was being more flexible.

Thank you for highlighting the timeline

 

That’s not right too.
If you want some country to start prosecuting oligarchs you don’t come and say you have 6 hours. If that was a concern then the $1B wouldn’t be approved by Congress in the first place. Or, Congress would have put some wording in the law approving aid that says something like “if prosecutor changes” or “starts prosecution”.
The current excuse is a BS attempt to rewrite history. And even if true, Biden executing this demand, when his son was earning 100 times more than what an average Ukrainian earns and his company was under investigation was wrong - they should have sent Secretary of State to do the job instead, because now it’s Biden literally fueling corruption in Ukraine. What Biden did was a total opposite of his stated intention was.

And the most hilarious thing is that Biden was complaining about corruption in Ukraine after he directly participated in it.

The way I see it is that Biden had no authority to make such demand, the Congress already approved the spending and Biden used his ability to temporarily hold the funds to force Ukraine to get rid of its general prosecutor, from which he gained personally by killing investigation of his sons company.

By the way, how the F do people claim that Shokin was fired for lack of investigation of Ukrainian oligarchs when he was investigating a company with son of the US VP as a board member?

 

Anti American scumbag obama is.

 

You are assuming that Putin was going to invade in 2012 the way youbare talking. But the facts are that Putin did not see a need to invade earlier than 2014 because at that time Putin had a "Ukrainian" pro Russian Traitor the Scum of the Earth Victor Yanukovych in as a "president" of Ukraine. Yanukovych The Traitor was getting ready to sign an "economic" union space agreement with Russia that was poison to Ukraine since it would have made Russia in charge of the Ukrainian economy. Yanukovych was also going to sign a "defense coperation " military pact with the Moskovites. Real patriotic Ukrainians wanted to join the EU and NATO. It was not until the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi Moskovy ( aka Russia) that Putin invaded Ukraine. That was after a couple young demonstrators in Kiyiv forced the Traitor Scum aka Yanukovych to abdicate and run to Russia with his tail between his legs.

 

There is a video of Biden telling the Ukrainian story. In his own stupid way, he also implicated Obama. When he threatened not to give them the billion dollars unless they fired the prosecutor, they said they would talk to Obama. Biden said to go ahead. So he knew Obama would back him up.

Then in 2013, Biden and Hunter boarded Air Force Two to China. Less than 2 weeks later, Hunter's company had a sweetheart private equity $1billion deal with the Bank of China that ballooned to $1.5 billion. The Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned with the son of a sitting VP. The NY Post had a good story on it. Would he have gotten the deal if his father wasn't VP? Highly doubtful since he really knew nothing about private equity, but obviously China saw certain other advantages. Did I fail to include John Kerry's stepson Chris Heinz was Hunter's partner?

So Hunter was involved with at least the Ukraine and China while his father was VP and Joe accompanied him both times. Corruption seems to be the credo of Obama's administration. These kinds of things will be coming out for years to come. Tip of the proverbial iceberg...and MSM just covered all of it up...

 

So much like the Romanov Trump Czar Familula.

 

So Obamska is responsible for that assine decion made 25 years ago to turn the US Navy into Eunachs??

 

BTW, what ever happened to the Clinton 'slush fund' aka their "Global Initiative". Amazing that once Hillary is out of power that Bills $500K+ speeches disappear.

 

He probably used some authority similar to what Trump used to withhold the $250 million.
There was no investigation of Hunters company at the time.

 

But back on topic.
What do you suppose the promise Trump made was for?

 

Biden claimed he told Ukraine they can completely stop it. That was not just a temporary hold.

Everyone, including liberal media, says there was, and then we have anonymous ronv on the Internet claiming there was not.

 

What did Hunter Biden do wrong?