Massive Fires In Saudi Arabia - Aramco Oil Facilities Hit By Drones

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    No one is blocking them. Precisely. Therefore, no need for the USA to be involved since we only get a tiny percentage of oil from there. Let those who benefit from that oil pay for it, not us.
     
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    We have no business being there.
     
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    It's a far longer way from Washington DC to Israel but that hasn't stopped politicians from granting billions to a repressive socialist and racist government who suppresses Palestinians.
     
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    Actually we have been running towards war with Iran since Carter botched the handling of the Shah half a century ago. The appeasement and tribute that the Nuclear scheme (It was not a treaty as it was not ratified) represents was a hall pass for the regime to build the bomb but on someone else's watch.
     
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    The Shah was put into power by Republican Eisenhower in 1953.
     
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    Saudi Arabia should bomb iran back into the stone age.
     
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    I do not understand the argument you are trying to make here???
     
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    Yes...and your point?
     
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    The same point you were making about the USA creating conflict with Iran.
     
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    How many ships have the barbarians seized so far...3, 4. maybe 5?
     
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    How amusing. Did they say 'Simon Says'?
     
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    The USA didn't 'create' conflict with the barbarians. That role was Iran's. The Iranians keep poking civilization in the eye with a stick and whining when civilization complains.
     
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    I cannot answer that question. Can you answer for why companies or countries allowed any alleged high jacking without providing protection?
     
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    Western civilization largely began in Iran. It has not invaded anyone in the past generations unlike the USA.
     
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    While some might be confused at the lack of a real difference between Iran invading other countries and Irans use of terrorists and funded barbarians to invade other countries, I'm not.
     
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    Isn't that crazy?
     
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    Terrorism and barbarians? Did you forget about Bush's bombing of Iraq and Abu Ghraib?
     
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    As to why civilized nations are not defending their shipping from barbarian attack, well, a combination of cowardice, incompetence, and lack of assets capable of such a defense comes to mind.
     
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    Liability.. They don't want a pitched gun battle on board. Sort of like banks don't do shoot-outs either.
     
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    Crazy would be to pay undue attention to the demand. The demand itself falls more closely into the realm of the simply 'silly'. I am reminded of a quote from Casablanca...

    Captain Renault : Oh no, Emil, please. A bottle of your best champagne, and put it on my bill.

    Emil : Very well, sir.

    Victor Laszlo : Captain, please...

    Captain Renault : Oh, please, monsieur. It is a little game we play. They put it on the bill, I tear up the bill. It is very convenient.

    The barbarians make demands and we ignore the demands, all very convenient.
     
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    Apples/Oranges
     
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    If they refuse to provide protection for their own vessels and personnel, then the USA is not obligated to pay for their failings.
     
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    they have enough money to buy oil, they can spend just as much buying protection
     
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    No.. The Iranian people are for the most part good people.. The problem is their leadership and that Republican Guard or whatever its called. If they aren't religious maniacs looking for Armageddon, they sure give a close imitation of same.
     
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    The oil spills would be devastating. Its the same reason they don't have a shoot-out when some crook robs the convenience store.
     

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