Just Released… BREAKING: FULL TRANSCRIPT of President Trump’s July Call with Ukrainian Leader Zelen

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  1. Ddyad

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    A partisan political party with an incumbent president running for reelection while at the head of the party does not need to humor primary challengers. OTOH, Trump might decide to let a few corrupt RINOs debate him. It worked so well for over a dozen of them in 2016.
    That would be even more entertaining this time. ;-)
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL - Nothingburger is Nothing...

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    Don't despair - the George Costanza of American politics and the Tinfoil Tribunal will always be there for you. :lol:
     
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    I listed to part of it. Based on what I heard Trump spoke in a calm and balanced manner. Far more Presidential in his message and delivery than Obama.
     
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    He did a great job. Very Presidential.
     
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    The DOJ/FBI is obviously corrupt. That has been public knowledge for decades. The informed Left knows that. Some pretend they don't. ;-)

    “European intelligence experts are amused at the readiness of their American counterparts to justify domestic practices as “defensive counterintelligence”. This has become apparent in the justifications for wiretapping. One can see it clearly in the report of the Saxby committee on the FBI's counterintelligence programs. This document, released in November 1974, justified the most aggressive forms of counterintelligence, deployed in a program conducted for some 15 years against nominal communists, on the ground that it “was conceived as a ‘counter intelligence’ effort in the purest sense”. The targets, the report argued, were really foreign spies and saboteurs.” The Age of Surveillance, The Aims and Methods of America's Political intelligence System, Frank J. Donner, Alfred A. Knopf, Inc., New York, 1980, p. 19.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is this the same "whistleblower" who had no direct and firsthand knowledge of the conversation between the two presidents? :roll:
     
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    That is what all presidents do. It is Trump's duty to discover evidence of official corruption, and Biden is clearly crooked - he bragged about it.
     
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    How is that pressure or relevant if it wasn't even discussed? And what is the connection to the whistleblowers alarm with the phone call?
     
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    Unless this claim by a New York Times reporter is true.

    https://twitter.com/kenvogel?lang=en

    If true then there was no pressure because the Ukrainians had no idea the aid was delayed. If not all you can say is MAYBE.

    Granted this guy is only a reporter and the claim is unconfirmed but so are an lot of other claims in this story.

    Essentially everyone is jumping to conclusions based on partial information.

    Were the Ukrainians investigating Hunter Bidens company when Joe Biden pressured them to replace the AG?
    Unknown.

    Why did Trump delay the Aid package?
    He gives reasons but people doubt them.

    Did the Ukrainians know it was delayed when he called them?
    Unknown.

    Who is the whistle blower?
    Dont know yet, hopefully soon.

    Did the Whistle blower have any direct knowledge?
    So far reports are no but unconfirmed.

    Did the Whistle blower have a political bias motivating his report?
    It's been claimed but unconfirmed.

    All we have is a transcript which shows no evidence of a crime but of course is not verbatim. And a lot of rumors.
     
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    This post is incoherent
     
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    Who will he accuse of having an assassin father this time? Bill Weld? Maybe his dad helped kill RFK
     
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    The quid pro quo is fully documented. The Bidens should have been called before a grand jury to explain themselves or take the 5th years ago.
     
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    Yeah I just watched that as well.
    First of all, he's now totally overweight and not to steady on his feet.

    But watching him I think I sort of understand now WHY Trump has been able to keep going for the last 3 years; It's because he's just talking BS all the time.

    I mean, he really doesn't say anything well thought out, ever! That's easy, isn't it? Imagine if you, in life, never had to say anything rational at all.

    Consider me going to work tomorrow and talk nonsense to customers all day. Complete hokum. Never having to think, like Trump.

    Without the burden of rational thought I am able to enjoy a stress-free remainder of my life. Hell, I might live to be a hundred!


    Imagine if a person like Trump actually had to think for his living... He would have fallen down long ago.


    But now it seems he is indeed running out of energy, his brain winding down. There is NO WAY Trump manipulated the Ukraine transcript himself. (Re-writing the parts that Zelenskyy spoke.)

    If he had it might have looked something like this;

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    Hilarious
     
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    Yeah, you seem to have it all figured out. Calling him 'Tramp' is also clever..Most leftists can't think beyond 'Orange'.
     
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    LOL! He would only have to accuse Bill Weld of being Bill Weld. :)
     
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    What do you think? What crime is there?
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Democrats can agree that the most important thing right now is that the Ukraine holds an entire and thorough investigation in order that Joe Biden's name is cleared so that he can become the next POTUS. He then can also give his son Hunter a pardon.

    At least I'm guessing that's their plan.
     
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    Yes, he was at least one whistle removed from the action.
     
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    Sleepy Joe may finally be getting woke.
     
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    lol, like anyone would believe the Trump DOJ, Barr is Trump's lapdog
     
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    I don't know why Trump even bothers to hide his bad deeds anymore, Republicans would defend him no mater what
     
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    You keep believing that and you'll have a lot of surprises in store..
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why not have another investigation? That might work.
     

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