Climate Activist Greta

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  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    You can take it however you like but you’d be wrong...as usual. But carry on with your grand conspiracies.
     
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    For which claim?
    You Jr armchair scientists are amusing
     
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    You’ve said nothing of any consequence that deserves consideration. Any question you have can easily be addressed by a little research. You just want to troll.
     
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    I get how this works now.No,actually I've been on to this ploy
    for some time.Use Chilldren for an Agenda.Get the kids involved
    in Grown-up discussions.This is what guys like Bill Ayers has been
    calling for.He's Obama's Woods Fund and Annenberg Challenge
    colleague.His name never came up in 2008.Because it was banned.
    Deemed off limits.Because of his past.
    Really simple Folks .I want Wisdom among those debating Climate
    Change.I demand Wisdom.For most important things regarding our
    culture and especially our Future.
    My Parents were not Democrats but every Nun in my Parochial school
    was.Because they near adored J.F.K.
    This Little 16 yr.old Svede is No J.F.K. Worlds apart.
    How do I know this.The Old Fashioned way.

    Iv'e seen a thing or two,therefore I know a thing er two.
     
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    redeemer216 Well-Known Member

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    It's not like you'd believe them if they did, even so they do need too.
     
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    I can and I did and I have. As she did. She and her parents have claimed (part of the book etc) that her disorders make her uniquely qualified to assess this issue (and this is the part that just cracks me the **** up but in that dark humor sort of way when you're laughing at something ****ed up) WITHOUT EMOTIONAL CONTENT CLOUDING HER JUDGMENT. The obvious funny part being she's citing her panic as her credential so... pure emotion.

    I have literally listened to the experts, and none of them said "command economics now or you're thieves stealing this nice autistic child's hopes and dreams and childhood".

    Its not a little bit, it IS. So as long as they keep her pleased with herself they can exploit her all they like? Is that what you're saying?

    Charisma? She comes off like Veruca ****ing Salt for God's sake. The only people who find her charismatic are people who already agreed with the message she had that we're all extra double plus secret probation bad because we don't want command economics dictated by the climate cult. (Climate cult being differentiated from verifiable climate science. The whole "we've got 12 years for you to give me all your **** or we're all gonna die" vs "there are some effects and we can pretty easily mitigate them by switching broadly to nuclear power and sharing clean emissions technology broadly etc" (something Greta didn't agree with and even goes so far as to editorialize the opinion of the body she cites claiming they think nuclear needs to play a small role when its a large part of their recommendation).
    She literally got up there and had a tantrum where she accused those who disagree of being thieves. That's. Not. Charisma.

    She gave a speech in front of congress dude, not just the UN, or were you unaware of that?

    You keep telling yourself that
     
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    You made a claim.
    Put up or shut up
     
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    So that's a "never".
     
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    I didn't see her speech yet in front of congress, but I'll watch that one now. I'm not sure it's exploitation at all if she wants to do it and gains something out of it. That's what I was saying. Anyway, isn't that an oxymoron? She's 15/16, close to the age of emancipation, not really an age where saying "let her be a kid" is relevant any longer. Maybe if she were 12. I agree nuclear needs to play a role and the so called environmentalists who are anti nuclear are just hypocrites. Would agree that the speech in front of the UN felt very scripted and ranty, but there are other appearances less scripted and more natural where you can see her actual demeanor and speech. You sound very angry dude.

    Strawman.
     
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    Well I think there's a lot of anonymity that used to not be there. So people can say some nuttier things and get away with it and they'll probably have some more likelihood of finding followers.

    That is my hypothesis anyway.
     
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    The most in the know about this Climate Change are actually the
    ones who research Climate and weather patterns for a livelihood.
    Not just yer average local weatherman on TV.Guys like Joe Bastardi
    who always explains when addressing Climate what his father told him.
    Always go back and research the weather.Go back 100 years,or 150
    years.That is The Best indicator of weather and patterns and what to expect.
    Joe is quite accurate.He is not a Climate Denier but a Climate Change
    defender of Past Climate.Big difference.
    And anyone who proposes to make declarations about Climate Change
    Has to know the weather past.It's a must.
    This is not like being an actor or a Professional athlete.
    Climate is supposed to change.It's expected and a given.
    And YES we as humans are helpless to Change Climate.It is not
    possible.In fact we as humans couldn't change the climate even if
    we tried real hard.
    Great example. All the smog and soot in Old London of the early 1900's.
    From all that coal they used to heat homes and building.
    Best Example.The catastrophic Kuwaiti Oil Fires that Saddam Hussein
    set ablaze when he knew he could not defeat our Troops in The Persian
    Gulf war.The plumes of black smoke for days,weeks was of great concern.
    Most Scientist worried and stated it could actually destroy part of
    our atmosphere.That it would take possible centuries to filter out.
    Just research those huge plumes of black smoke as seen from
    outer space.
    No one ever talks about it anymore.I wonder why.Because it cleared
    up rather quickly.
    How's that for proof as to Climate Change and destroying our planet.
     
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    Just being honest. You sound angry. Also, lots of strawmen in there. Thanks, but no thanks. You have some good points but commit a lot of fallacies making it difficult to have an honest conversation with. I might even be on the same side as you with this but it's hard to know because of the above.

    "As I watched the news clip of the fifteen-year-old Swedish girl, Greta Thunberg, addressing the U.N. on climate change my first thought was that she looked spooky." This was about the UN speech, was it not?
     
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    You guys really need to learn the definition of strawman and how to properly diagnose logical fallacies.

    You know as well as I do, that you're not going to put ANYONE up for AGW debate, other than someone screaming "YOURE ALL GONNA DIE" while clawing at their faces, as much as I know it.
     
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    I did. What better reply then to tell you where you can research to help find the answer to any question you have on a topic, like AGW.

    That shows I know a lot more then you. The info is free.....and the most accurate you can get. .
    Are you as lazy as you are uninformed ?
     
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    Strawman: an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.

    ie saying "so it'll never happen" completely misrepresents what I said, ie strawman.
     
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    You didn't answer the question I asked, so if my response was a strawman, I was only responding to your creation, eh?
     
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    That and they form little clumps on social media and metastasize.
     
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    Well I'm not a leftist so reality is all I really have ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    Weather and climate are not quite the same. Research institutions like NASA and aaas to see what possible influences we can still have on our climate. The military thinks we can.
     
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    Implying what I meant in your response is the very definition of a strawman, but thanks. But if you need a direct answer, it's soon.
     
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    Well it's like flat Earth people I mean the crap they say in so crazy everybody wants to read about it.
     
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