Pu$$y grabbing - let’s settle this once and for all

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  1. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    A sexual harassment can only happen at a place where you cannot walk away - workplace or school. In any other case the woman is free to walk away. Before getting into politics Trump wasn’t powerful - he was just another rich guy and if you as a woman don’t like him you are free to stay away from him.

    So, women who let him grab them did so willingly, otherwise they’d just leave.
     
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    You are incorrect. Sexual harassment can happen in a social setting too. It’s NOT just in a situation where one can’t walk away. This certainly explain why you believe what you believe. My lord...
     
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    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    How can someone sexually harass you if they have no power to fire you or to affect your education?

    Harassment is about the use of power over someone else. If you are at a public or any other setting, no one has the power over you, therefore you can walk away or reject any advances without repercussions.
     
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    As nearly as i remember....
    What he said was bragging that his celebrity meant that he could do what ever he felt like with any woman.... even including grabbing them by the vulva.... and women would be ok with this because he was DONALD TRUMP.

    i have not been in this world for a while, so you may be better informed....BUT... this does not sound like normal foreplay.... is normal for you to grab the vulva of a woman you have never met? Maybe it is normal for evangelical Christians who seem so very fond of trump?

    also.,.. it seemed clear that trump was saying that he was permitted to grab the vulva of women he had never met. And, likely your mother and sister would have been flattered by such attention from DONALD TRUMP.... but zero percent of the women i gave ever met would be enthusiastic about having a stranger grab their vulva.... of course I understand that your family raised you differently.... so it is difficult for you to understand how repugnant this suggestion is for us

    btw.... you sound like you have great friends. Maybe we could hang out at a bar and do some vulva grabbing. Sounds like a good time
     
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    That is an absurd claim.
     
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    The keyword here is could.
     
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    Sexual Harassment:
    behavior characterized by the making of unwelcome and inappropriate sexual remarks or physical advances in a workplace or other professional or social situation.
     
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    "unwelcome and inappropriate" is so vague as to be meaningless in a real court of law.

    But yeah, I understand that lefties love this kinda thing. "unwelcome"... well of course lefties don't ask "what then?". Suddenly some guy asking a girl out on a date can be considered sexual harassment if it's not particularly welcomed.

    I've had the same happen to me many times, but I'm a normal person who realizes that it's part of the dating process. say "thanks but no thanks" as diplomatically as possible and get on with your life. Democrats... well, they are a weird bizarre bunch, so they think that a girl who I'm not really interested in dating, but she gets the balls the ask me anyway has just committed a crime.
     
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    If they're in the frat house at midnight they want somebody to please grab it.
     
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    Please explain to me why this bit of locker room braggadocio is the only thing he ever said that you believe. And please the point he made is little more than the statement that has been around for centuries if not millennia, too wit the greatest aphrodisiac in the world is power and money is a close second.
     
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    He said they would let as in allow you to do so. That would imply consent. And please see my last post.
     
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    Using power and money to take advantage of women is a sign of shitty morals. It's like groping a woman when she is drunk. Sure, you can get away with it, but that doesn't make one less of a dick head for doing it. Doesn't say much for you brushing it off as nothing, either. Whatever. It is what it is.
     
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    How is it like groping a woman when she is drunk? Presumably you are talking about a woman incapable of giving consent and therefore groping equates to "taking advantage" of an incapacitated drunk woman. That isnt what he said even remotely. Labeling those two things as analogous is nonsensical. That level of hyperbole is off the charts.

    What he said is that they "let" you do it. Let means allow. Hence, you are talking about a fully consensual interaction. Nobody is being taken advantage of. An adult woman has every right to do as she chooses and if she chooses to hook up with a wealthy/famous man, then by all means that is her right. Do you not believe in a woman's right to choose?
     
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    He’s talking about women being groped without their consent
     
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    Are you confused as to the meaning of the word "let"?
     
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    Not because he was Donald Trump, but because he is rich.

    No, but Trump never said he grabbed strangers by their genitalia either. ;)

    WTF is that even supposed to mean?

    No, that’s not what he said.

    Well, if they choose to hang out in such circles - who am I to judge? I thought libs are all for adults doing whatever they want. Am I being wrong here?

    Your argument was built on a fallacy. Trump didn’t say strangers allow him to grab them by their puzzy.

    Sorry, married with kids now. There is only one that I get to grab now. That’s what love does to you. ;)
     
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    Yeah cigars are way better.
     
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    Trump admitted on video that yes women let him grab some P Sea because he had money. That is not an accusation.
     
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    It is absolutely ok. Fine, no problem, good that Trump took advantage of Miss Universe contestants or any women. The reason it is ok is because he gave us Kavanaugh an ACCUSED but not convicted rapist. Trump should be allowed to commit a crime against women or girls if he wants to because he gave us Kavanaugh. Trump can give Russian secret intelligence information because he gave us Kavanaugh. Trump should be allowed to commit Caligula type acts because he gave us Kavanaugh.
     
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    This is what he said


    Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

    Bush: Whatever you want.

    Trump: Grab ’em by the *****. You can do anything.


     
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    What happened to all those accusations about rape back when Kavanaugh was in uni?

    Yeah... umm... what about those accusations about Trump feeling up some girl on a flight he took? Oh.... yeah... umm...

    Dude, you need to get with the program, and that program isn't some sorta TDS nightmare. It's about getting back to reality.
     
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    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    Yes, he describes interaction with a gold digger - she uses him, he uses her. Mutual consent. No proof he is talking about a total stranger since he already described her.
     
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    So its ok to sexually harass a women you believe to be a "gold digger." They don't have the same rights as other women, and you are the judge of who is who.
     
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    They let you do it.
     
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    If a woman is not interested she would not let Trump grab her by her puzzy.
    He explicitly said “let”, which means allow.
     

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