Trump's foul mood leads him deeper into darkness

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Andrew Jackson, Oct 3, 2019.

  1. PPark66

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    Evidently, you didn’t get the news the State Department IG turned over Giuliani’s package of crazy to Congress yesterday. So they know exactly what Giuliani and Barr have been attempting to concoct.

    Hopefully, batshyte crazy doesn’t rule the day.
     
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    Correct because not everyone in his party has his or our country’s best interest at heart. The establishment contains both Democrat and Republican members. There are plenty of Republicans that are supporting his efforts. The corruption is real and in plain site. Sad democrats can’t see it.
     
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    Yes there has always been political divide. Trump is the first President in my lifetime that has promised to address issues that prior politicians wouldn’t address. Immigration, trade, infrastructure, and wiping out establishment corruption. I never expected him to be popular with everyone, just the more honest ones.
     
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    And you are seeing exactly what the media and the establishment wants you to see. I just wish when the evidence is provided to prove you wrong, you would take a minute to re-evaluate the facts. The Dems have been wrong about nearly everything of importance. The innocent people being hurt by these politics is inexcusable to those that just see this as a game. It’s time the stupidity is called out.

    Please vote to impeach him. Time to get all of this in front of the American people following our laws of justice. So, y’all quit your preaching and get your leaders to vote. Vote today please.
     
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    Trump was never the target of any investigation until he started obstructing the Mueller probe. Even then Mueller cited DOJ policy and refused to do more than list the offenses.
     
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    :roflol: Tell that to someone who’s been in a coma for the last 3 or 4 years.
     
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    True. Especially with Trump not even hiding his abuse of office. The public has always considered that a reason to remove someone.
     
  8. Junkieturtle

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    He has certainly acted on immigration, though largely because the draw of building a huge national monument to himself across the southern border was too much to ignore. He has acted on trade too, but to whose benefit remains to be seen. He hasn't done anything with infrastructure. And, he IS establishment corruption. He was corrupt before he got in office, and none of that ever changed. He has not drained the swamp, he has simply built a water fountain in it. Water fountains recycle the same water while distracting you with meaningless aesthetics.
     
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    And that’s the beauty of this country. You are free to believe what you choose. Just remember, no trump collusion with Russia, no obstruction, carter page did nothing wrong, the fbi planted a spy in the Trump campaign with no evidence of wrongdoing. FISA abuse. You are being played.
     
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    Never believed the collusion part. Obstruction is up in the air, he was not cleared of that.

    The fact that others may have done things wrong does not mean Trump isn't or hasn't. He doesn't just stop being the person he's been for decades overnight. In fact, getting elected has only emboldened his negative personality traits.

    But you are right, we are all free to believe what we choose. I choose to believe it's more important to retain credibility and integrity than to vote for an obviously corrupt person. Now you can't speak out against other corrupt people without being a hypocrite and looking like a two-face. You sold your credibility down the river. I hope you got what you paid for.
     
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    So you watched a duly elected President being framed for a crime he didn’t commit, watched people like Schiff lie to the people about evidence that didn’t exist, watched them all proven wrong when multiple investigations using every tool available by the US government could find nothing on Trump. You’ve seen these people accuse innocent good people of sex crimes with fabricated stories. You’ve seen these people plant a spy into a Presidential campaign. And you are still believing Trump is the corrupt one? Hey man, run with it.
     
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    That's why he punked the media on his way to the Villages today. You want a little eggroll with your Ukraine.
     
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    Why are I keep trying what? (Sorry, but I can't resist replying with the same bad grammar received.)
     
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    1) It’s an investigation so no vote will occur unless evidence is found
    2) Feel free to post evidence where anything you quoted is incorrect — let’s start with the deficit, he promised to have it balanced in two terms which is no longer possible. We can move on to him being too busy to golf. Steering government funds to his private ventures. The revolving door of corruption seen in his administration... Pick a hand full and refute them instead of “preaching”.
    3) Who is “y’all”? What demographic box are you trying to lump me into?
     
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    If you had a hysterical mob throwing their garbage at you everyday, you'd probably be in a foul mood too. The problem lies not with the President, the problem lies with the hysterical mob.
     
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    The FBI didn't spy on Trump. Every call in or out of every Russian Embassy in the world is monitored and has been monitored for over 50 years. Trump's people were red flagged because of their repeatedly calls to the Embassy. They were NOT the target. If they wanted secret communications with the Russians they were stupid and should have tried another avenue.
     
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    The wall, the tariff wars, the tax cut, getting Mexico and other countries to do something to stop the invasion on our southern border all the while dealing with liberal judges and sleazy attacks from the swamp people. It isn't actually the same water.
     
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    It is the same water. His administration is full of lobbyists and career politicians. He has done no draining, and never planned to. The swamp promise went into the same trashcan that the locking up Hillary promises went into.
     
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    Lol...The Rodney Dangerfield whine is precious.
    "Working together" with trump means bending over and holding your ankles and hoping that he bothers to use vaseline when he abuses you.
     
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    He wasn't framed for anything. He was investigated and that investigation cleared him. It did net some bad guys close to him and very likely scared the crap out of him that it would expose, in the course of investigating one thing, that he had his fingers dirty in other things. That's why he was so worried about it. He knew they'd never prove collusion, but he couldn't be sure they wouldn't find other dirt.

    And yes, while it may come as a shock, the existence of other corrupt people does not equal Trump not being corrupt. It just means he's just one of the many corrupt people in power. The only difference is, we already knew that before he was elected. Donald Trump's need for attention has put him in the spotlight for decades. You were told, you were warned. But you elected him anyway and now you just can't fathom why he keeps getting investigated. IT'S BECAUSE HE'S CORRUPT!
     
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    Y’all is those that have wanted Trump out of office since before he got in, believe some of the wildest conspiracy type theories about Trump yet can’t recognize simple, in plain sight evidence from a ICE director telling the American people about the lies we are being told.

    The vote is to formally open an impeachment inquiry which sets forth formal policy giving the minority more power. It also put the Representatives on record. Nancy won’t go there.

    Not really interested in the other stuff the President can’t control. He promised to repeal Obamacare. He didn’t fail because he can’t sign what doesn’t exist. Blame the Republican house and senate members but don’t blame the President.
     
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    Ok Margot, if you believe Trump was not a target then that is what you believe.
     
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    No.. I used to live across the street from the Russian Embassy in Tripoli and I know first hand they were being monitored. Monitoring communication in and out of the Russian embassy dating back when they were Soviets was SOP. Trump is just stupid.
     
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    I think that you're in denial like trump.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/10/george-conway-trump-unfit-office/599128/
     
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    I can’t think of a better way to put it. He was spied on hoping to find some dirt on him. Interestingly enough, I’m sure they thought finding dirt on him would be easy because I’m sure, as you do, they thought he was corrupt. After 3 years of our government investigations they found nothing. Nothing. They knew he was an outsider, who didn’t need to sell the office and who could expose Washington’s long running corruption. He promised to clean up Washington and they panicked.
     

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