United States Votes Against UN Resolution Condemning Death Penalty For Gays

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progr...IUDnaNWXnb-q0aIPYcb8L2VfdjGdgm5yxoIDDb3Vxj_68

Bloody hell, apart from the barbarity of Trump's position, look at those he was obviously placating!

 

Pay for play?

 

If the Trumps were money grubbing corruptocrats like the Clintons and Obama, they wouldn't be donating their time to making America great again.

 

Cute and just a party partisan hack sort of post.

 

I'd be stunned if there are no homosexuals who are Republican voters, i.e...... Trump's base.

 

Haha.

 

One in seven ac Kinsey. They can’t all be Democrats.

 

Every american president has been the ally of gay-killing government since ever. Somalian, Sudanese, Nigerian and Yemeni government are all pro american. They were already pro american under Bill Clinton or Obama.

The only which is against you is Iran.

And you're a little harsh on countries executing gay people, are you islamophobic ?

 

The worst about Islam is that it has a lot of conservatives. That’s why it is such a backward religion, much like conservatives are the reason the United States is so ass backwards.

 

I'm no conservative myselves, I don't appreciate either conservative or progressive, but you're a good representant of the progressive hubris.

I got it, you're a bunch of übermenshen and we would span a intergalatic democratic empire if there was only people like you.

Intersting that you call muslims "backward". That's kind of hate speech, isn't it ?

I have three points :
_ Muslim countries sentence gay people do death since a few decades and under a bunch of democratic representants aswell, why waking up aswell.
_ What set you apart from conquistador or 19th century colonist if you feel so superior that you think you have a right to impose by force your opinions on what you perceive as "lesser" culture ? Europeans were forcing their values on other culture not only out of white supremacy, but aswell like you do for "enlightment" or "progress".
_ Obama did nothing for gay people in those countries. Why do you think it's acceptable for Obama and unacceptable for Trump ?

 

That picture has been bugging me for years. What the hell are these guys looking at?

 

I don't know, my point is just : the USA had very good relations with gay killing countries under democrat leadership for a longtime, and it didn't bother the democrat ubermenschen.

 

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I don't know how realistic a standard you intend to set here, but the Obama administration's record on gay rights overseas is a little different than Trumps, that's for sure. What ever pathetic efforts these represent they are a huge improvement over Trump refusing to vote against killing gay people. . https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc...et-mission-export-gay-rights-overseas-n673861. https://www.washingtonblade.com/2013/08/08/carney-affirms-obama-opposes-anti-gay-law/

And you may want to define what 'imposing an opinion by force' looks like to you.

 

Indeed. Reactionaries are always a drag on any society that needs to change and improve.
They are paralyzed in an anachronistic fog by dogmatic fear and become an impediment rather than a help.
Sadly, we will always be hamstrung by precedents and they have to be handled wisely to avoid making things worse.

 

We're so lucky that perfect being like you walk on the earth to help everything going in the good sense. Reactionaries should feel lucky to breath the same air than you.

Too bad that progressive don't procreate and that only big mean reactionnaries do.

There were people speaking of war when Brunei enacted death penalty against gay people, I don't care of boycott.
For Russia, it's a non-element as USA and Russia are already battling for ressources and "gay rights" is only a pretext.
During Syrian war, Obama administration helped anti Assad militias that enforced shariah, which mean death penalty for gay people.

Just to be clear, I'm not a big fan of LGBT people, but I'm for gay marriage. In a global way, I never trust what says a politician. Many politician speak words of peace and spread war, or speak words of ecology then sign treaties terrible from an ecologic point of view. Obama was quite good at saying a thing and doing the opposite. I don't trust Trump, but he is more simple and readable in his goofy way.

There is often a lot of hypocrisy behind all the "pro-gay" diplomacy.

 

How did the clintons get so damn rich
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The best evidence of mere pretext, is a position by the Obama Administration that is INCONSISTENT with one he takes at home or elsewhere, not for one that is CONSISTENT with the one at home. The Obama administration has been consistent with regard to supporting basic human rights for the LBGTQ community everywhere and condemning abuses. He does so in Brunei, and in Russia and in Saudia Arabia and here in the United States. The consistency here is in itself evidence that Obama is more supportive of basis human rights than Donald Trump, who is entirely completely indifferent.

 

You make some good points, but I don't see any evidence of Obama action in saudi arabia in both articles, maybe I misred.

 

Log Cabin Republicans endorse Trump
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/457680-log-cabin-republicans-endorse-trump

The Log Cabin Republicans endorsed President Trump's 2020 reelection bid on Friday, nearly four years after the conservative LGBT organization declined to endorse then-candidate Trump in 2016.

 

The President donates his salary. The rest of the family donate their time. Did Clinton or Obama donate their salaries? Can't take the facts, find an echo chamber. There are plenty out there who will lie to you to make you feel good about yourself.

 

I've been looking for the actual resolution but can't find it. Looking at the actual resolution can be enlightening.
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That there is quite the post. Apparently, the mind is a terrible thing to waste.

 

Doesn't matter. Muslims have been throwing gays off of buildings or whatever they do to kill them for 1400 years. Nothing the UN does is going to change that fact including undermining our relationship with Muslim states. Thanks to our current leadership, our stepping out of the globalist mix is not driven policies coerced by the need for Saudi Oil.

 

For one thing they sold our foreign policy. Hillary had Uranium One sold to Putin ,,, $145M went to the Clinton Foundation ,,, $500K went to Bubba for a 20 minute speech in Moscow.

The way to liberate money from a Foundation is by hiring your own consulting company to manage it. The round-off error on payments for our foreign policy can turn a pauper into a prince.

 

Fake news for the win.

https://www.politifact.com/punditfa...no-trump-didnt-vote-death-penalty-gay-people/