Your child says I'm gay. What do you do?

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  1. The Amazing Sam's Ego

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    What about lipstick lesbians?
     
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    that straight people can have fantasies of the same gender shows being gay is a choice.
     
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    If it's a choice why would they have those fantasies? Generally speaking straight guys have done severe issues with these fantasies. If it's a choice just don't have them and then nobody would.
     
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    I don't think so most people are so it would be unnecessary to say that you are straight. Especially because the attraction to the opposite sex doesn't make you feel as though there's something wrong with you. Unless you're in some sort of backward religion.
     
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    Maybe people are bisexuals because whats the next thing? Maybe its because they dont have God in their heart, but thats just my opinion.
     
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    What do you mean straight guys have done severe issues with those fantasies?
     
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    Well it strikes me that your opinion is that God is a liar.

    Matthew 7:7 God says ask and you will receive, knock and the door will open, seek and you shall find.

    so you have to tell yourself that you know better than gay people what gay people think. This is so common so pervasive within the Christian community that you were just like vegans. You're pretty self-centered self righteous crap runs everyone off and that's why Christianity is dying in the West. You and those like you or jabbing a knife and twisting.

    And it all over the fact that such and such type of people can't be doing what's right because of whatever you have in your head

    I noticed you didn't respond last time I called you out in this way. I wouldn't be surprised if you don't respond now. I think that is because you do not want your beliefs challenged because you want to be right. That is not conducive to Jesus and God.
     
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    I meant to say it causes them to have severe issues.

    Some discomfort. Questioning your sexuality it's not something anybody wants to do.

    Yet you think it's a choice this either means you don't know what the word choice means or you have no idea what a human is.
     
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    You and I have probably never stopped to think about whether or not we're mass murderers, yet mass murderers exist. Another example of which might be that we've almost certainly never considered whether we're foot fetishists, or feeders .. yet we know both of those exist. None of these (mass murderers, foot fetishists, etc) require our consideration .. it's an automatic, un-thought position to not be those things.

    Some cultures simply don't include it in their 'self-identity' musings. It's just not on the menu. That has nothing to do with the fact that some people in those cultures will be gay, or mass murderers, or foot fetishists. We're talking about two different functions, here.
     
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    Not relevant.

    so that invariably means they don't have them, so why are there gay people there?
    I don't believe you.
     
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    I'm not discussing the mechanics of homosexuality, I'm discussing cultural indifference. When the unspoken position is that it doesn't pertain to you or your life (in any way), it never becomes a point of consideration. You can know something exists out there in the big wide world, and yet never give it the slightest attention, other than in a spectatorial sense. Like any other 'world news' type of thing.

    No idea why you mention PTSD etc, sorry.
     
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    Your failure to grasp the difference isn't my concern Poly.
     
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    As far as mentioning ptsd, you brought up mass murderers.

    IMO, it does pertain to everyone. No one knows if the person next to them is dealing with the stress of coming out or even has doubt of their own sexuality, just like a person suffering from PTSD.

    Bing mindful of how we address people or comment about this subject in general goes along way.
     
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    It depends upon how you define what is “ gay”.
    It is totally dependent upon their actions, or in thier references,
    A person can act straight but have preference for a sane sex relationship. They are more gay.
     
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    Your failure to explain why there are gay people there is.

    All of your claims are dismissed as flights of fancy crank.
     
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    I'm talking about cultures in which homosexuality isn't newsworthy. They wouldn't even dream of stopping to consider if the person next to them is 'dealing with the stress of coming out', because such a thing wouldn't even occur to them. Just as it doesn't occur to you or I to wonder if the person next to you is dealing with the stress of being a mass murderer. It's just a non-thing.

    Frankly, the idea of all of us walking around worrying about the fine and mostly unknowable details of the possible stresses of those we encounter, is beyond absurdist.
     
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    Humans are prey to all sorts of urges not in our own best interests. The objective is to resist them, when they're not patently in our best interests. And by resist, I don't mean crash tackle each urge as and when it arises, I mean not allowing them to arise in the first place. THAT'S the key to self-discipline.

    The great mistake made by those who insist we shouldn't resist our urges. They don't understand the first thing about what self-discipline actually is. They literally think it means just allowing those urges to keep tormenting us. It's very childlike thinking.
     
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    Jodie foster, Kelly McGinnis, Lily Tomlin and a plethora of other women you don’t even know.
     
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    So, if you lack self discipline, you’re gay ?
     
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    I think that God is like a repressed memory to people. The Bible says that nobody seeks God. I also believe that everybody is seeking God whether they realize it or not and they mistaken that desire for other things.

    quoted from ye must be born again by jesus is savior.
    Think of Princess Leia saying I know somehow ive always known. The Bible fits together like a puzzle piece. We all have a desire to seek God in us, the Bible says it, in the verse that God makes everything beautiful in its time. We are imperfect and we come from somewhere, there is a moral standard, every bad thing done under human law has consequences. Everything has order and purpose.
    Eternal life is the gift of God (Romans 6:23). Salvation is freely given (Romans 5:15), freely offered (Romans 10:13), and freely received (Revelation 22:17). Salvation is receiving, not giving. I hope and pray for the salvation of lost sinners, for that is why Jesus came into the world. There is nothing dearer to the heart of God than preaching the Gospel... “the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth” (Romans 1:16). Please don't go to Hell. You don't have to. Your sin debt is paid, but you must receive the gift of God by placing your faith in Jesus as the Christ, i.e., the Messiah, the Savior. There is NO salvation apart from faith alone in the name of Jesus (Acts 4:10-12). I believe in a relationship with a Creator and a Savior. Religion is people trying to find meaning and purpose apart from repenting. Repentance is not just I'm sorry it's a change of heart and mind. People don't want to seek God because they don't want a genuine change of heart and mind. Repentance is not just I'm sorry it's a change of heart and mind, and becoming a new creation.

    Calvinism is false doctrine that makes people think that they are not chosen.
     
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    None of whom are beautiful. What's your point?
     
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    I said nothing at all about gayness.
     
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    Are you assuming all gay men are flaming?
     
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    So you do believe that God is a liar? I just don't share that opinion.
     
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    Conceptual error. The use of sex as a dominance tool has nothing to do with attraction. It's about power.
     

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