The requirement to impeach Trump based on his phone call:

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  1. stone6

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    Biden was acting consistent with U.S. policy and the policies of the EU, IMF, et al. If, however, you believe he conditioned U.S. aid on a job for his son, investigate away...but let's also include investigations for Trump's daughter and son-in-law in regard to their work in the WH, business loans and Chinese business licenses. I have no problem with more investigations.
     
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    We are thinking of American laws. VP strong arms Ukraine to get is son $millions and then blackmails Ukraine to call off prosecutor( this tape has been showing for months) one day before he is about to interview Biden's son. What planet have you been on???
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Slow??? LOL Who is SLOW would be Trump and his supporters. They didn't cared about Biden 3 years ago. Get real.
     
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    Hypothetically, can the President of the United States ask a foreign government to investigate a non-politician where there is evidence of corruption?

    The answer is yes.

    So, just because someone is a politician and a "main frontrunner" doesn't make them immune from a criminal investigation.
     
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    How would you know what "American people" knew? It's all a matter of opinion. But you made an important point when you say he was elected. Of course, the Democrats will impeach; how could they not? They've told their base they would from the beginning. And then the senate will throw it out. And it will just be a waste of time and money. And will energize Republicans.
     
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    It's true, some folks could have been in the dark. I suppose my point was that, if there were folks who didn't know, it's because they didn't bother to look. Trump has been a public person since the 1980s, largely because of his personality problems that make him an attention seeker of the highest order. All the information is out there and it's not hard to find.

    It's not a waste of money. Holding this president to a standard is something that absolutely needs to happen. Can you imagine if every president after Trump acts the way he does, with no regard for the law, decency, ethics, honesty, or morality? Presidents from both parties, not just the one you like? No, impeachment needs to happen because presidents need to be held to a standard too.

    I'm just sorry the voters elected to sell out on theirs in 2016 when they voted for Trump.
     
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    Trump has had over 3 years since the events in question took place in Ukraine. If he had pushed for this investigation last year, there wouldn't be an issue. But he waited, strategically of course, on purpose, until Biden was one of his prominent political opponents before asking two foreign governments to involve themselves in our election. If you take issue with it, take issue with Trump for his obviously political timing which now makes this a question of election interference.
     
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    Oh yes because im sure nobody is keepint their eye on anything trumps kids are up to . Gimme a break. He doesnt get a free pass like dems.
     
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    So it turns out there's ANOTHER phone call. This one with the President of China where he's looking for dirt on not only Biden but also Warren

    Sensing a pattern yet?

    And no


    "China if you're listening..." was no more a joke than

    "Russia if you're listening..."
     
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    Biden , a prominent political opponent... now yhat line made me laugh ... does anyone on the planet really believe biden has a chance in hell against trump ? I think not , or else they wouldnt be bringing their full attack on trump . What are bidens positions on anything other then enriching his family through shady foreign deals? What did joe biden do for america in his decades in office ? What are joes accomplishments that he will run on ? Can anyone tell me ?
     
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    Whatever it takes to prevent the investigations of democrat crimes. Now way , cant have any of that .... impeach , impeach , impeach .... so predictable .
     
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    It turns out that there is another phone call "locked down" in that super secret server.

    This one to the Chinese President requesting manufactured dirt on both Biden AND Warren

    Both of whom are....yea...Trump's political opponents
     
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    President Zelensky, who ran his campaign on fighting corruption, assumed office in MAY OF 2019!!!!!

    Hello! Anybody home????
     
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    I'd tell you why this is dumb but I think you know.
     
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    A long way from this to corruption.

    The president has the right to bring up corruption in ANYONE; just because Biden is a Dem politician doesn't make him off limits. And I wonder why Biden doesn't defend himself and explain. I suspect it's because his advisors have told him it looks bad, really bad (because it is) and his best defense is just to refuse to talk about it and claim he's "taking the high road."

    Bull.
     
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    Old saying: People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Biden is simply "a red herring," but the attacks on him will come back on Republicans, as will the President's attempt to deny Russian involvement in the 2016 election.
     
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    The Russian Hoax seems like a long time ago, doesn't it? Newsflash: it's been debunked.
     
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    Meh, he has nothing on the Bidens.

    Look at all the money drug addled sonny with no experience has made.
     
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    His request was specifically related to the Barr investigation into the origins of the Trump/Russia collusion narrative and any tangential political corruption. The Barr investigation for obvious reasons did not begin until the Mueller investigation was completed. "Three years ago", Sessions was the AG and he was recused from all topics relating to this matter.

    The release of the Mueller Report is what dictated the "timing"of the Barr investigation. With that being undeniable reality, your claims of "obvious" political timing is demonstrably false.
     
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    I think Biden was simply the "icing on the cake" and is now the "red herring" for Republicans, just as the Steele Dossier was/is. Biden must be judged separately, by the electorate, from Trump's illegal calls for investigations by the Ukrainians and the Chinese.
    The Mueller Report wasn't the "end," but only the end of the beginning.
     
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    Well the reply and revelation was absolutely spot on!
     
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    Not sure how you mean that? That the Russian election interference was true or false?
     
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    If you were not going to respond to what I said, why did you bother quoting me?

    FWIW Biden is irrelevant. His chances of winning the Democrat nomination is between slim and none, and that has nothing to do with this potential corruption issue. There is absolutely NOTHING illegal about the justice department investigating potential corruption. You may have suspicions that it is politically motivated, but you have no actual proof.
     
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