US diplomat's wife leaves the UK as police probe deadly August crash

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  1. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-diplomats-wife-leaves-the-uk-amid-fatal-crash-investigation
    I am very interested to hear what the "America first" crowd has to say about this. The US has refused to waive diplomatic immunity for this woman. Should an American diplomat be allowed to get away with negligent homicide? I sincerely hope you all agree with me that this woman needs to be returned to the UK where she can be brought to justice. Her status as an American diplomat should not protect her from being ****ing stupid.

    I sincerely hope the "America first" crowd doesn't say something stupid like "HUR DUR SHE MERICAN, SHE WALK."
     
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  2. Political Master

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    "No one is above the Law"...does she fall under diplomatic immunity?
     
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    Fleeing the UK to get away with murder?

    Wife of "American Diplomat"?

    That is to be EXPECTED from anyone associated with the Trump Trainwreck Administration. :smh:
     
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    Maybe sad, but she has diplomatic immunity. It's the Law and know one is above "our" laws, so we have to live with it.
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not sure diplomatic immunity applies here. I welcome your legal analysis if you have one to offer. But even if it does apply, the US has the right to waive it. I think they should waive it here because it looks very bad for our country when we hide behind diplomatic immunity to protect the incompetence of our citizens. This makes us look weak.
     
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    It is the law, but now the UK and US are retinking it, but rest assured we've had our fair share of diplomatic criminals escape justice from here
     
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    Any nation can choose to waive diplomatic immunity. In a case like this there is no good reason why it should not.
     
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    This is not an analysis.
     
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    Not an analysis just a fact, they are rethinking it, but to change it now would mean they would have to make it retroactive
     
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    What on earth are you talking about? I don't have the slightest idea and I get the distinct impression you don't either.
     
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    The current law of diplomatic immunity covers wives, the UK and the US are taking another look at that law. Try to keep up.
     
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    1) Got a source for that?
    2) Why does changing it now make it retroactive?
    3) None of that is relevant here as the US can simply waive immunity, as it should.

    Still not convinced you have much of an idea what you are talking about.
     
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    It's been confirmed that the woman is a republican. Shocker.

    https://heavy.com/news/2019/10/anne-sacoolas/

    Boris Johnson has said he will appeal as high as Trump if necessary to get this woman to return to the UK. This is a serious mess we're in. The UK is going to reconsider its diplomatic immunity policy if the US will not waive immunity for something like this, as is apparently the custom. I suspect that Donald will protect his own, as is consistent with his "America First (even before justice)" philosophy.
     
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    You started off by asking a legit question about waiving diplomatic immunity in this case and then you and another member dragged Trump into it. You basically derailed your own question.

    I don't know enough about how immunity works or the consequences of waiving it. So I'm going to read the responses to your question and maybe pick up something I didn't know before.
     
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    If they abolished diplomatic immunity and tried everyone subject to it that would be retroactive. If they simply waive immunity that would not, as it is currently in the law.

    The former is not on the cards as the whole point of diplomatic immunity is that the other nation's laws cannot be trusted. As an example, it is illegal in some nations to criticise the state, or these nations can target diplomats as a playing chip.

    Nobody is going to trash diplomatic immunity. This is now a political dispute between the US and UK and will be resolved accordingly.
     
  16. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    If the US won't send her back to face charges then England should cut relations with the US.
     

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