End Affirmative Action. Yes / No & Why

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Should Affirmative Action be ended? Including diversity considerations.

  1. Yes.

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    81.6%
  2. No.

    16 vote(s)
    18.4%
  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't matter what WE assume, here, it's what prospective employers will assume.
     
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  2. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Let me ask my Progressive friends and come back to you :)

    Certainly, neighbouring areas where the rednecks live are far more multicultural than here in Prog Town, so they won't know.
     
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  3. Bluesguy

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    You mean Joe the plumber pay for the engineering and technical degrees of persons who will forever earn more money that he? How about the engineering taking the difference between his pay and Joe the plumber's apy and apply just half that to pay off his degree each year until it's paid off?
     
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    The reason to get rid of affirmative action............Elizabeth Warren is a good example.
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    You’re a lucky girl then.
     
  6. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    @Renee
    and her BFF @Sallyally
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    Yes to creating programs that may give a competitive
    advantage to otherwise disadvantaged children.
    And I don't mean athletic programs!



    Create the expectation in a child, that one may become
    a college graduate, professional, etc.
    And offer a road towards a competitive advantage.



    Problem has been such programs & funds have been preaching
    some doctrine of this or that and run by ideologues
    who did not go to college or achieve what they should
    be stimulating the children to strive.



    @Renee
    The West did open opportunities to women way
    before your area. No Constitutional amendment was
    required to give women the vote when Western States
    did.
    My parents had family friends who were accomplished women,
    not just one. It never really seemed like to big deal to me.
    More like raising kids with an expectation, not limits.
    And anyone so driven could achieve it.

    No one thought I could ever be an M.D.
    It was always my dream, not one telling me to do that.
    Borderline, Slow, Not Reading.
    Since age 7 to High School counselors. Don't plan on medicine.
    Luckily I went to the Med School that invented "Synopsis Textbooks"
    Deus Vult indeed. UCSF.

    Point: Go Figure. :)
    But, I do believe the West offers more opportunity to those
    traditionally held down in The East. Including, "da Jews".
     
  7. Renee

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    Why? She got into colleges before affirmative action.
     
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    Renee Well-Known Member

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    Either you are disingenuous or just are not aware of the limited opportunities women had.
    What doe s”da Jews” mean!
     
  9. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    @Renee

    In "The West" employers were less concerned
    if one was Jewish before your part of the country.
    "Mad Men" demonstrated it well.



    Again, the cure is cultivating a crop of otherwise limited opportunity
    children to gain . . . . . without A.A.
    Maybe the Black kids need an Asian Tiger Mom counselor along with a good, high quality chicken/beef - fresh veggie - whole milk meal at such centers.

    The standard Black Muslim / Black Nationalist who acquired such funds
    wasted that funding.

    Yes? / No?
     
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    When that crop is grown, then AA can be removed.
     
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    I'm lucky to live in a hive of self-righteous middle class uber-white Progressives? Okay :)
     
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    No. Arts & Humanities students should fund STEM degrees.
     
  13. Renee

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    jews are white,,,,and stereotyped as smart....
    Blacks don’t have the white privilege and are stereotyped as inferior
     
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    "off white" at best.

    I've noticed for decades although many White people can play "jew, not a jew"
    Asians and Black people can't.

    Before WW2 and well into the fifties, major corporations did not hire Jews.
    As stated above, Mad Men portrayed the coming out & acceptance from
    the time when they didn't hire any and had to find one to comfort a
    prospective Jewish client - who they then served Shrimp Cocktail.

    Well shrimp were not farmed in those days, expensive and still Not Kosher.


    @Renee :blowkiss:
    Please reply to

    "Maybe the Black kids need an Asian Tiger Mom counselor along with a good, high quality chicken/beef - fresh veggie - whole milk meal at such centers.

    The standard Black Muslim / Black Nationalist who acquired such funds
    wasted that funding. "
     
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    You could shift if they are so obnoxious. Are you a town dweller?
     
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    They two will be asking Joe the plumber to pay for it.
     
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    We're planning to do so, actually. Funny you should say that!

    While this place is lovely, and there's something to be said for the general safety and nice manners of a hive of self-righteous middle class white Progressives, it's no longer sufficient compensation for the down side - that being, a hive of self-righteous middle class white Progressives. The racism in particular, is wearing real thin. We'd prefer to be around people who don't notice or don't care .. because they're not invested in having 'black friends'. We'd also prefer to be around people who don't ****ing tsk-tsk day and night, and tiptoe around jokes, and sneer at religious people, and struggle with difference, etc etc etc etc etc .. ad nauseum.

    PS: We're not in a big city, no. We started married life in the inner city .. like all 20-something hipsters, but have long since abandoned that life.
     
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    If I was King of the World I wouldn't allow that :)
     
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    I really don’t know what kind of response you want
     
  20. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just the truth.

    Please speak clearly
    into into the microphone


    ref.: quotification(s) above
     
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    I speak the truth!
     
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    A great example is how liberals insist that expecting blacks to obtain ID is such a great "hardship" while others can manage the task.
     
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    Sorry your life is unhappy. Have you found somewhere nice in the bush or country town?

    The progressives around you sound different from the progressives I know. They are tolerant, inclusive, broad minded etc.
    My best friend is very conservative, wanted to vote for the anti Muslim party and sneers about black people. Sometimes I want to smack her and tell her not to be a smug git. We don’t talk politics. Gardening talk is better.
     
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    While i do credit you as being the same, it's rare on a political forum. Most are condescending, rude and elitist (wannabes) and full of arrogance. You are a rare exception.
     
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    Thank you, that’s very nice of you.
     
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