The reality of no-deal Brexit can no longer be distorted

If Germany were so good, then Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich ruined that for Germany then didn't he; according to the link I shared;
As Nazi Germany threatened war in Europe, Britain made efforts to strengthen ties with the United States, which included hosting one of the largest foreign pavilions at the 1939 New York World’s Fair. The pavilion’s centerpiece was Lincoln Cathedral’s Magna Carta, making its first appearance outside of Britain. The public presentation of Magna Carta was intended to convey the depth of British and American kinship, both philosophical and historical. “It is felt that Magna Carta symbolizes more than any other document the common origins of British and American democracies,” explained R. A. Mitchell, dean of Lincoln Cathedral. To further the connection, “The Pedigree of George Washington” was displayed near Magna Carta and traced the first president’s descent from King John and nine of the barons that were party to the charter.

When the fair closed in October 1939, the British government extended the document’s stay in the United States to avoid the risk of shipping it home during wartime. In an official ceremony on November 28, 1939, Lord Lothian, the British Ambassador, deposited Magna Carta in the Library of Congress for safekeeping. The Library exhibited it opposite the U.S. Constitution and the Declaration of Independence until April 24, 1940.

After an encore presentation at the World’s Fair, Magna Carta returned to public view at the Library of Congress. When the United States entered World War II in December 1941, the Library evacuated Magna Carta, the Declaration, the Constitution, and other cherished treasures from its collections to Fort Knox, Kentucky. After military officials determined Washington, D.C., was no longer in danger, Magna Carta and the U.S. Charters of Freedom went back on display at the Library on October 1, 1944. Finally, in early 1946, Magna Carta returned to its home in Lincoln Cathedral.

 

Are you trying to say that we still ave freedom of speech in the UK? We don't.

 

And won their war of independence for them.

 

But we do.

Germany in 2017 only changed the law allowing them to criticise a foreign head of state - this of course came after it was either that or lock up half the country for their thoughts on Donald Trump.

Still not sure if you'd go to prison for saying anything against the German head of state in Germany, they haven't got freedom of speech just freedom of expression; Besides 2017 is crazy late to start having freedom of speech; their new found freedom needs years, decades, centuries to set in before they catch up with UK / USA.

EU is made up of EX Soviet, EX Franco, EX Third Reich current Republic of France majority rule current German economic dominance - Why should UK be a part of this and choose EU over USA considering USA and UK have shared values making for the special relationship?

 

You are not in the United Kingdoms - so what you do or do not have is irrelevant to this conversation.

 

Wrong, it was about seriously insulting a foreign head of state. The case was brought by Erdogan because a comedian had called him a goat f..er. The law was a old fallback from the Weimar Republic.
Germany has in its constitution freedom of speech and expression. You can say what you want against the head of state, but if you insult you may get a day in court.

 

Without naming 'it' there definitely are things one cannot say in Germany. But back to Brexit ..................

Irish courts finding:

http://www.irishnews.com/news/north...gJsrq3S6qvwSHurfHxMz1f3ads-k_ZgvpulZKil5Q3GPc

and a French warning to our Navy

https://britishjournal.net/french-w...XEr7yjN8OMB5mr0-07TW_bie_-e_lKWss7ptg0QlgUaKY

 

okay sure...well if he insists ...okay then... is that how it works? He insists that we allow them free access to our territory....is their a negotiating stance in there somewhere? Would the EU chief negotiator Mr. Barnybear accept that as a legitimate argument for our having access to the EU market....M. Barnybear J'INSISTE!!!

 

Since when wasn't Croydon in the UK?
I'm as British as they come; Born, raised, is where my blood comes from and all my documents are British.

 

Well yes, but that is the case for every country, including the US and UK.

 

Croydon! Lol - I used to know Croydon well ..... long ago now. It was always an ugly town.

British is a civil title which means squat now a days.

 

Not the same 'it'. The CPS here have somehow made up a new sorta crime called 'Hate' which dear Lordess I hope disappears with the bloody EU.

 

I used to know Soho well once upon a time; I'm one of those Croydonites who ventured out to the West End a lot.

 

''Out to'? Yeh, yeh pull the other one .................

 

Out to, what of it?

 

No-one from Corydon would use the phraseology you did - not ever.

 

I don't buy into this whole cliché way of speaking stereotype bullshit; I speak how like and if you've got a problem with that, I couldn't care less.

I'm not here to be yours or anyone's picture of what an Englishman or Croydonite or South Londoner should sound like, got it?

 

Which begs the question, why on Earth would I or anyone care about a country where it matters how you speak and what words you use if you're from a certain area? (Most retarded thing I've heard all day tbh). This country can go to Hell before that happens.

 

The phraseology that you used proves that you do not come from there - that is all.

 

Nothing to do with a cliche - it is about not knowing your geography. Croydon is diverse - not everyone speaks the same dialect or even language but one thing they all would not do is use your phraseology.

 

Yet I did, so deal with it. (Last thing this country needs is ********s forcing you to use certain words and phrases to prove you're from where you're from).

Venture out to Soho, what do you think I should say, venture up to Soho?; I can say go up to Soho but venture up to Soho feels wrong, and I can say venture out to Soho (from Croydon) (which I said anyway) and saying 'go out to Soho' feels wrong (from Croydon); and given I refuse to buy into this whole 'you should sound like this and say it like this because you're from here' nonsense; I still wonder what you're trying to prove.

 

Point is, this country doesn't need ***** telling anyone how to speak, comprende?
That's right, I said comprende too, what of it?!

We have freedom of speech but with you it seems, we don't have freedom of expression. lol

 

I am not telling you how to speak - speak as you will, I do not 'give a damn'. I am merely saying that you do not come from Croydon because no-one from Corydon would ever say, not in a million years, that they ' venture out to Soho'.

And there is no freedom of speech in England anymore because of the new hate laws which have been invented by the CPS.

 

Yet I come from Croydon...
Get how I recon it's full of ****?


I basically sound like this girl given everything here from music to taste to words and demeanor, which is perfect for me as she's also from Croydon, so, it's a Croydon thing.

 

One goes 'up to' or 'into' or just 'to' one can have 'a night out' in but one cannot venture out to Soho from Croydon. .

It isn't me trying to prove anything - it is you trying to prove that you are something - or somewhere - that you are not. You can't fake Sou'f of the River to some one who is from South of the River so just stop trying. Croydon was the central town when I was and my daughter was growing up - it has changed a lot since then, I was there recently, but it has not changed its geography! One goes up to town not out to town.