LGBTQ Workplace Discrimination Case Comes To The Supreme Court

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  1. Paul7

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    I reject the premise that people with same-sex attraction are a protected class. What next, a class for guys who like blonds?
     
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    You don’t have to reject anything as gay people can be openly fired, refused medical treatment, refused housing, refused the ability to adopt and tons of other rights you take for granted every day. It’s fact, gay people are not a protected class.

    Yet.
     
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    I reject the the premise that homophobes that believe homosexuals wanting the same liberties as straight folks, are a protected class.
     
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    Also sounds kinda like blossom on cnns lgbtq town hall

     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Almost like she was passionate about not being murdered.

    How surprising...
     
  6. Paul7

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    Which parent don't kids need, a mother or father?
     
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    God forbid waiting your turn and making calm logical points.
     
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    A father of course...
     
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    While a loving financially secure biological family is always best, how many parents do you believe a child has in an orphanage?

    Is loving parents regardless of their sex better than existing in a state or religious run facility?
    Or do you think gay people are ripping children away from households compromised of a willing mother and father?
     
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    Oh I completely agree, just like the protests that shut down interstates and places of business — it often turns people away from what one is trying to achieve, no matter how just it is.
     
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    If we have a choice, and we do, we shouldn't be knowingly placing children in a sub-optimal situation. A mother and father are best. Given the rampant promiscuity in the gay culture the concept of a stable marriage is meaningless anyway. No child would knowingly sign up for this bizarre experiment, they are sacrificed to the gay agenda anyway.
     
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    Why did you call people homophobes, do you detect some sort of fear? I suspect you used that word just to sling mud.

    Anyway, like I said earlier, I have a sister, two cousins and a long time family friend who are gay and if you met them they would waste no time letting you know they're gay. You see, they've been conditioned to believe that being gay gives them some sort of protection. If you disagree with any of them you're going to get hit with 'it's because I'm gay, isn't it?' Any kind of discussion or debate where you are not on their side will eventually end up with you being accused of hating gay people. Believe me, I've been through it many, many times. And here's the real kicker, that attitude of 'you can't touch me because I'm XYZ' has spread across racial, religious and political boundaries.

    You guys have a gay guy running for president, right? If he should win, you know damn well that if anyone who disagrees with a policy of his will be called a homophobe even though that word is essentially meaningless. You did the same thing with Obama where merely asking for proof of work eligibility was considered racist. And should Harris or Warren win then everyone who disagrees with them will be called a misogynistic sexist.
     
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    I noticed you didn’t answer the question. Feel free to try to find some integrity and try again.

    Also most studies on childhood wellbeing show very little if any difference in that area when conditions are similar.

    And many children would prefer to exit their situation to go to a loving family

    So gay people shouldn’t have children because you feel they are promiscuous? Who is going to tell trump we have to take his kids away?
     
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    ho·mo·pho·bi·a
    /ˌhōməˈfōbēə/
    Learn to pronounce
    noun
    1. dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.

    Your anecdotal story has zero relevance. You are likely told you hate gay people because you want to deprive them of basic rights. I’m sure you can understand their confusion if your rhetoric around them mirrors your narrative here.

    For my anecdotal story I have never been hit with the “it's because I'm gay, isn't it?”, but I’m also not a homophobe (see above if you are still having trouble with the definition)

    Since you can predict the future can I have next weeks lotto numbers?

    It makes you look foolish to believe calls for Obama’s birth certificate, then original form, then long form — and still people said he was not a legal citizen even though it’s vetted by the now gutted FEC — had anything to do with besides the color of his skin.
     
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    If there was a question buried in your rant please let me know.

    Not this one: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0049089X12000610

    Ideally, children should be in a loving family with a mother and father. To knowingly place them in a sub-optimal situation does them a gross disservice.

    Trump's kids grew up with a mother and father, and do you really want to compare Trump to the number of sexual relationship's many gays have?
     
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    That is all that I want. I don't agree with firing someone just because of their sexual orientation myself. But people need to do this the right way or the issue will just drag on for decades. Look at Roe v Wade for an easy example of that.
     
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    A phobia is a type of anxiety disorder, defined by a persistent and excessive fear of an object or situation. The phobia typically results in a rapid onset of fear and is present for more than six months.

    The word homophobia is a manufactured word to use as a weapon of attack. Phobias are fears, not hate.

    I was never taught to hate gays, so I don't know why you would think that. And do you think the word hate is a tad too strong? To me hate means I would want to destroy, injure, harm or even kill someone who I hated and I've only experienced that once and it was hatred for a white guy.

    Asking for O's birth cert is child's play compared to what the left is doing to Trump, it that because he's white?
     
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    Just to address the rest of your post...

    Yes, there have. There has also been several instance of people being fired just for the perception of being homophobic or racist regardless if they are or not. It's a two way street. For instance that Proud Boy guy that was a volunteer fire fighter. The town shut down the entire fire department just because he wouldn't voluntarily resign. It didn't matter whether he was a racist or not. He was associated with a group that is claimed as being racist. Had nothing to do with his job performance. Just the perception itself was enough. Both ends need to be worked on here.
     
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    I acknowledge I have an aversion to
    Big, big people.
    Low toned voice
    Ugly.


    Will this become a crime too?




    And can't we get rid of this alphabet soup, LGBTQ
    which can only add more letters. Like for the Pan Sexuals.
    Let's make it simple again.
    Support the return to the word, "queer". Yes I mean it!


    Moi :oldman:





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    Questions are often easily identified by their punctuation with a interrogation mark.
    But I will be happy to repeat them so you can run away again.

    1) While a loving financially secure biological family is always best, how many parents do you believe a child has in an orphanage?

    2)Is loving parents regardless of their sex better than existing in a state or religious run facility?

    3) Or do you think gay people are ripping children away from households compromised of a willing mother and father?


    Ah yes, a study behind a paywall... One that doesn’t even have the conclusion you are alluding to. I guess you win, that completely discredits the dozens of studies that show there is minimal difference.
    The above is sarcasm just in case you didn’t pick it up.

    That is your opinion and not backed by numerous studies. That aside, do you think leaving them in a state run facility is “optimal”?

    Many gays are in monogamous relationships with children, so they are superior to trump and his band of merry whores.

    Oh, you want to excuse his actions and demonize gay people because what you feel the larger subgroup does. Ok, got it. This is why y’all keep losing court case after court case.
     
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    An orphanage is also sub-optimal.

    There are also loving people running the state or religious facilities, but it isn't the same as a home with a mother and father.

    Unless we've run out of mothers and fathers who want to adopt, we shouldn't be placing them in sub-optimal situations as a tool to promote the gay agenda, which I define as the attempt to normalize perversion.
     
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    Prejudice is the word I would use.

    The word Homophobia does not follow typical syntax rules but acting like you don’t know what it means is well, kinda lame at this point.

    trump is being asked for documents that he said he would release and every president in my lifetime has willing done so. No, I don’t believe skin color has any baring. Can you name another president that was harassed over his birth certificate?
     
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    Perversion is an opinion.
    • More than 23,000 children will age out of the US foster care system every year.
    • After reaching the age of 18, 20% of the children who were in foster care will become instantly homeless.
    • Only 1 out of every 2 foster kids who age out of the system will have some form of gainful employment by the age of 24.
    • There is less than a 3% chance for children who have aged out of foster care to earn a college degree at any point in their life.
    • 7 out of 10 girls who age out of the foster care system will become pregnant before the age of 21.
    • The percentage of children who age out of the foster care system and still suffer from the direct effects of PTSD: 25%.
    • Tens of thousands of children in the foster care system were taken away from their parents after extreme abuse.
    https://www.nfyi.org/51-useful-aging-out-of-foster-care-statistics-social-race-media/

    I think a loving family requardless of their orientation is substantially better than the above.

    You don’t care about the children, you care about pushing your own sense of perversion.
     
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    When you have righties that called Obama an "affirmative action" president, the those righties deserved to be called racists.
     
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    But he wore a tan suit and is monogamous to his wife!!!!

    If Obama is an affirmative action president after winning two elections with majority popular support what does that make trump who can’t even win one?
     

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