Scientism - The Belief System of Atheists

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  1. Arjay51

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    Really reach9ng there after a positive start to your post.
     
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    Your words, not mine. Nobody has to fit into any box if they can think for themselves.
     
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    It's a simple fact. I'm not reaching and your answer is equivocation.
     
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    Yes, you are reaching, over reaching in fact. There is no equivocation in my answer, that is all in your imagination, which is where the majority of your claims come from.
     
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    I said nothing of the kind... i think you missed my sarcasm.
     
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    If what you said was supposed to be sarcasm you really need to practice up on it. From your statement it was a declaration of your beliefs, especially after you defended them.
     
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    No, it had nothing to do with what I believe at all other than there is likely more than one way to be an atheist.
     
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    Careful that you don't trip and hurt yourself with all the back peddling that you are doing.
     
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    Someone posts how to be a good atheist .
    Another person asks why their can"t be an alternative.
    I simply say that suggesting that there is only one way to be an atheist is putting them in a box.

    If you're take away was something else that's on you not me.
     
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    Provide quote of those posts or admit that you are making up these things, again. Imagining these statements only proves that you see what you wish to see without regard to the truth.

    BTW, I note how you always project your falsehoods onto others. Not a quality that endears you to those who appreciate the truth.

    BTW, what gives you the authority or knowledge to tell people how to be "a good atheist"? All that I have encountered have come to it through their own journey, no permission needed.

    And again, it is only you attempting to place anyone in a box. Probably for your own comfort.
     
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    Wow.. whatever.. goodbye.
     
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    You are assuming Pyrrhonist skepticism, which is self-defeating. Pyrrhonic skepticism is itself a position on the possibility of knowledge.
     
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    Still struggling with this concept? Individual atheists can have belief systems (although all you did was list individual beliefs, not a belief system), but that does not mean that atheists (plural) have a (singular) belief system. There are many, many belief systems compatible with atheism. Atheism is not itself a belief system. It is a stance on 1 question. Same goes for theism.
     
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    Is a belief system the same as having a belief? And is having a belief system ( whatever that actually means) the same as having a religion? Or is your only criteria for having a religion having a belief system.
     
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    As usual, when pressed for proof of your statements, you cut and run. Typical, because you can't.
     
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    Disagree. To say that atheists don't have a belief system is incorrect. True we don't believe in any gods, but that doesn't mean we are necessarily with out a code of ethics like everyone else.
     
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    True, but they are not based on the myth of a god, they are based on observation and thought.
     
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    But that has nothing to do with atheism. EVERYONE has a belief system, but atheism by definition is not one.
     
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    Sure in the brilliant world of the neoatheists god:

    "Our belief is not a belief." ― Christopher Hitchens

    The mark of true genius, our water is not water, our cars are not cars and nothning is itself. Just one of those mysteries I guess in the neoatheist religion?

    Explain

    sounds like another mysterious neoatheist concept that only neoatheists are privy to understand?

    Explain

    I am sure that not only myself but many others want to be enlightened?
     
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    And you continue to insist that only your own terms and definitions are valid, even after having them explained to you at length and thoroughly that you are wrong. Of course you are always wrong. It is you religion to be wrong, so you make up terms to support your wrongness and insist that only you are correct.

    Just lie the petulant child does. Perhaps y our idol?
     
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    Neoatheist isn’t a word. Atheism is not a belief system, by definition. Atheism is the lack of belief in a god or gods.
     
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    neo atheist definition
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    Most people would be embarrassed posting pure bullshit but not neoatheists.

    They dont even believe they are atheists
    I love comedians.
    "Our belief is not a belief." ― Christopher Hitchens
    Yes Chris ole boy its loonacy.

    :roflol:
     
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    Neoatheist is not a word. Sorry.


    No matter how many times you repeat it, you will be just as wrong as the first time. Atheism is not a belief system, by definition. Atheism is the lack of belief in a god or gods. This is reality.
     
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    Once again proving that you are not "most people".

    You are a special breed who used to be locked away from normal people but are still never believed or listened to as the authority you seem to think you are.

    Instead of just continuing to make up these claims, perhaps you should withdraw from the public forums until you can come up with something original, thoughtful or at least somewhat truthful.

    Hasn't happened yet but one can hope.
     
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