Supreme Court says it will consider Louisiana abortion access law

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Are you pro life or pro choice

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  1. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

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    Her choice is whether to conceive or not. For many, abortion is a lazy woman's birth control.
     
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    Only if their mother has chosen to conceive.
     
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    Paul7 Well-Known Member

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    Like slaves during slavery, unborn children are deemed by Democrats to be less than human, and therefore expendable.
     
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    Why does it have a different blood type and gender.

    Fetal age of viability has been going down a long time, long before it is legal to abort. We have the most liberal abortion laws in the world, up there with China and North Korea.
     
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    rape victims did not choose to get pregnant

    I know some pro-life people believe this, but it's a lie

    "Rep. Todd Akin Says Women Can Shut Down Post-Rape Pregnancy"

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/summeranne/rep-todd-akin-says-women-can-shut-down-post-rape

    "From what I understand from doctors, that's really rare. If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that down."
     
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    ...and do what with it? Grow it in their own wombs???


    You are correct...when a woman is raped (FORCED sex) and impregnated she should NOT be treated like she committed a crime by being FORCED to gestate.

    FORCE is wrong no matter who does it.


    Oh, what a simplistic and totally unrealistic saying to embroider and frame...
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    are you kidding, most pro-lifers fight to take away welfare and other support once a baby is born, once born they move to attacking the parents for not being able to care for a child

    "Simple, if one doesn't want an unwanted pregnancy, don't have one."

    then don't make it illegal to do so
     
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    It's biology.....that's how people are grown....that still does NOT change the fact that it is part of her body......SHOW how it isn't part of her body if you are so convinced it isn't.
    If it isn't then WHY TH should she have to grow it?



    No, it hasn't....it still takes 9 months to grow. It isn't viable until 23-24 weeks (able to survive without extraordinary means)….NONE of that has changed and is irrelevant to the abortion issue anyway.


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    I guess you'll have to show me China and N. Korea's laws....I'll wait :)
     
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    :) Are you saying that 1 year olds and the elderly live inside women ???? LOL!!!!
     
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    Conception is never a choice.....a woman has sex and either gets pregnant or not.....there is no "choice".
     
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    Here is where it gets interesting. If the fetus is a person at the point of conception, then the State has a right to govern the pregnant mother's activities in order to protect the little person.

    Drink, smoke, take drugs, don't exercise, don't eat the right things, sleep too little, engage in risky activities like boating or riding motorcycles? That is now the government's business. And what about driving? Shouldn't pregnant women be required to use special seat belts to protect the baby?
     
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    Oh , here we go with the old, tired, erroneous, "slave analogy"


    well, here's a more apt analogy ….. slaves lost the right to bodily autonomy...EXACTLY what Anti-Choicers want to do to women.


    YOU claim : """unborn children are deemed by Democrats to be less than human""

    SHOW where any Democrat said fetuses are less than human...….I'll wait :)
     
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    AND if the government owns that embryo then it should support it from conception to grave :) :)

    And since women will lose the right to bodily autonomy if abortion is banned the government can do anything it wants with them....sell them, rent them out, have them pick cotton....
     
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    Well for starters, it would be illegal for pregnant women to drink because it is illegal to give alcohol to minors. And yes, in order to protect the babies, some women may have to be taken into custody for the term of the pregnancy.
     
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    Well, why not? Afterall, having your right to bodily autonomy taken away makes you nothing more than a slave...


    but let's not give Anti-Choicers any more ideas on how to abuse and control women, they have enough of their own ;)
     
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    Yes, but all of those red women might start thinking about the consequences. If a fetus is a person that needs protection by the government, then it applies to all things. So get pregnant and give up your rights for nine months.

    I guess the fetus can also be claimed as a dependent. :D
     
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    It's literally illegal to smoke or drink during pregnancy. Another case where the baby is protected until such time the mother wishes to kill it.
     
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    https://www.alcohol.org/laws/serving-alcohol-to-pregnant-women/

    There are 20 States that have laws against drinking. But the enforcement is subjective.

    https://www.alcohol.org/laws/serving-alcohol-to-pregnant-women/

    So right out the gate, a woman is giving up control of her body if she gets pregnant in some States. The rest of the argument logically follows: Get pregnant and the government controls your body. ;)

    Just wait until the lefties are in charge with that precedence! :D
     
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    What does this have to do with a woman's right to their body?
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    I am on the left, it will be great, Mandatory, organ donation after death, mandatory vaccinations, sounds great.

    So how many rights are you willing to have the supreme court strip from us, before you are willing to give up abortion rights?
     
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    No, it isn't.....DO show me the law that says pregnant women can't drink or smoke....:) I'll wait …
     
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    It isn't the lefties who want to control women ….Puhlease, who do you think is pushing for the destruction of women's right to bodily autonomy???
     
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    Junkieturtle said:
    So it exists inside her, completely on it's own? How did it make it's body, it's blood, it's tissue and where did it get the material? How does it breathe? What does it eat and drink? Where does it's waste go? How does it stay warm? Where did this void that the fetus apparently moved in to come from and how did it get inside the mother without her becoming alarmed about this new completely unconnected unincorporated part of her abdomen? I can't say I've ever heard of having entire regions inside a person's body that aren't a part of that person's body. Seems kind of like magic.

    Or bullshit.






    DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, it was in answer to :


    """""Paul7 said:
    The unborn child isn't the woman's own body, often having a different blood type and gender."""""""


    So, DUH, it doesn't directly have anything to do with a woman's right to her own body which they were NOT discussing.....
     
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    I am simply using their own premise and noting where it logically leads. ;) They think lefties want the government to control everything. And they want to give the government control of women's bodies. So I can only imagine what they think the lefties would do then!!! Just sayin...
     
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    BS, it doesn't have to be either or...

    And how will you like giving up your right to bodily autonomy after abortion is banned setting a precedent ???
     
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