President Trump has made 13,435 false or misleading claims over 993 days

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    One of the ways that identify that something is a cult is when none of the followers are willing to accept that their "dear leader" is constantly lying to them.

    Sad!
     
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    Another aspect of worshiping a cult leader is for his followers to believe that he is a martyr of sorts.

    Sad!
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Nothing in life is completely impenetrable. At some point in time, the dam will break and then there will be angry water everywhere.
     
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    More WaPo fake news.
     
  5. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    You are welcome to your own opinions, but you are not welcome to your own facts. The facts are clearly laid out in the WAPO database, there is video and audio and print evidence to back it up. There are quotes from multiple sources where this stuff was published in between 50-100 media outlets of all stripes simultaneously at the time and discussed in virtually all corners of the world.

    So, it's not fake news. Sticking your fingers in your ears and proclaiming it to be fake news is not going to make it fake news. Claiming that something is not when it is or claiming that it is when it is not is something we allow young children to do as they are learning to deal with the world around them and we kind of laugh, expecting children to grow out of this phase. It's not something we expect of adults.

    Better luck to you next time.
     
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    That's what happens when you pick sides and stop being a professional journalist. Many people will never take the Washington Post or New York Times seriously again. If you want to be a credible journalist you simply don't pick sides when it comes to the politics.
     
  7. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Journalists are typically well educated, well read and well aware of what is going on and their primary job as the 4th estate is to keep We the People well informed as to what is happening in politics and our government.

    Exposing the lies of the BLOTUS is NOT "picking sides"!

    FAILING to report the lies of the BLOTUS would be "picking sides" because it would be CONCEALING the FACTS from We the People.

    In essence journalists report their findings and We the People get to decide if the BLOTUS lying is acceptable or not.

    Note that NONE of Obama's supporters accused the media of "picking sides" when it reported less than flattering news about him and his administration. That was because the media was just doing their job and the Obama administration understood this.

    That neither the BLOTUS nor his supporters like having to FACE the FACTS that the BLOTUS is a lying POS does NOT mean that the media is "picking sides".
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Some Trumpsuckers are starting to see the light:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...ouldnt-vote-for-trump-again-even-if-he-walked

    And just to note, the HILL is the very, very right-wing leaning outlet.

    This particular former Trumpsucker out of Ohio, also a former GOP official and a farmer, said he wouldn't vote for Trump again even if Trump could walk on water and not get wet, because he is pretty sure that Trump just lied out his ass about the China deal noting that we all have already see this kind of lying crap before.
     
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    We don't need no stinking whistle blower.. Trump turned himself in..
     
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    Never known the Hill to be biased

    Important Sufferers of Trump Supporter Disorder Like Lindsey Graham are starting to see the light.. Mike Pompeo is under the spotlight. RudyG is a Hand Grenade.. Bolton's due course coming soon to your news feed

    Bolton called it RudyG's and Nick Mulvaney's "drug deal" per testimony from Fiona Hill
     
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    What do you mean by support? What do you deem a person must do to unsupport?

    Is there a lie quota and what is it? If a president tells 1 lie a week, is that ok? Or 1 a day? What's the official or legal cut off?

    Just intrigued to know.
     
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    Specious rhetoric is a staple of this administration. Sophistry works...
     
  13. Statistikhengst

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    Actually, that's a very interesting question. Thank you for posing it.

    But I do think that @Derideo_Te , whose content is, well, brilliant to a "t" is prolly not referring to a quota. More like the break out moment where people finally see the entire ****ed-up shitstorm for what it is and just give up. I know farmer friends in Ashtabula, County, Ohio who have already long given up. They've had it with him. Were I a West Virginian, I would be pissed off beyond belief. So much for coal coming back, nöööö.
     
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    I second this.
     
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    I would respect a republican who said they support Trump’s substantive policies but reject his persistent dishonesty an inflammatory rhetoric. For example, I am a liberal. But I am constantly ******** on AOC for being a dumbass. And I think Bernie Sanders is all talk with no plan. I see many other liberals also speaking critically about politicians in their own party. But you don’t see that anywhere near as much among republicans. The only time I see a republican on this forum speak badly about a republican politician is when said politician speaks badly about Trump. It is almost as if republicans lack the fortitude to think and speak for themselves. Perhaps that is ultimately what separates democrats from republicans.
     
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    BINGO
     
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    President Trump has made 13,435 false or misleading claims over 993 days

    Submit the numbers to Guiness. Might be a new record.
     
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    “Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.”
    Friedrich Nietzsche
     
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    You make a fair point.
     
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    Lol, it's just the bloviating nature of those who grow up in Queens - semantics lets call it... They are all like that, it's a 'New Youooook' thing... Trying to come off as tough as Brooklyn & definitely not as pansy ass as NJ. Verbosity was invented in that zip code... :) Things aren't just 'good' they are 'fantabulous'... things aren't large, they are 'Uuuumungous'... etc. etc.
     
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    The left should love Trump for using hyperbole. You people constantly spew hyperbole far more extreme than Trump's hyperbole.
     
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    They call it a barrier, Trump calls it a wall. That is really the only difference. Both are designed to prohibit or impeded someone from going forward. A firewall is not really a wall, yet its still called a wall. (its in the name duh). A Wall isn't just a solid concrete barrier or solid brick wall barrier. People often use the word "wall" metaphorically also. Its to denote that they have come up against something that is preventing them from going forward. For example a scientist researching something can say "I've hit a wall" when they are having trouble getting past a particularly difficult process.

    So really all that you've shown is that WAPO is using semantical nonsense. If you say the sky is blue, I could bring forth semantical data that you are lying going by the way WAPO reports things. Try me. ;)
     
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    :applause:
     
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    I don't think I know of a single Republican that thinks that Trump is perfect. I think most Republicans are quite willing to acknowledge that Trump is an *******. That's part of what many like about him. He's going against PC culture. And what is and isn't "inflammatory" is really subjective. What inflames you, may not inflame others and visa versa. For instance when Trump said "many fine people" he specifically also said that he wasn't talking about white supremacists in the same speech that he said "many fine people". Yet the left touts it as him referring to white supremacists. When Trump said "they're rapists and murderers" the left touted it as him meaning all Mexican's when in fact he was talking about the MS13 Gang. So while Trump may be inflammatory, he's not near as inflammatory as the left and media portrays him as. In fact by claiming that he is talking about white supremacists and all Mexicans in those two situations it is the left that are actually being the ones that are inflammatory.

    And yes, Trump can be inflammatory. For instance what he said about The Squad was inflammatory. And while yes, the left does criticize their own on occasion I also see them defend things that should not be defended. For instance Antifa is an obvious one. When Schiff made that "parody" of Trumps phone call with Ukraine many defended him.

    In the end we can both come up with dozens, if not hundreds of examples of each side doing something wrong, being inflammatory, and being dishonest. Most of the time it just depends on ones own perception and what they see vs don't see. I once saw a graph from Gallup and the Knight Foundation that showed where each liberals, moderates, and conservatives get their news from. It showed that liberals mainly get their news from liberal biased sites and less than 10% from conservative biased sites. Moderates mainly get their news from liberal biased sites but also get a lot of their news from conservative biased sites. Almost evenly actually something along the lines of 60/40 or so. And conservatives mainly get their news from conservative sites...but here's the kicker, they also get quite a bit of news from liberal biased sites think its some where along the lines of 70/30. NOTE: I'm remembering here as I can't remember where I saw the graph but its basically about how it plays out so the numbers probably aren't fully accurate, just generally so.
     
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    Ahhhh, but Trump himself, on the campaign trail, said very explicitly that it was going to be a big, thick beautiful contiguous concrete wall and that Mexico was going to pay for it. Were you sleeping during those two years where he said it over and over and over and over and over and over again, Mr. Rumpels..... ahm, Mr. KalStang??

    :)

    Not only that the border wall lies is just one example out of the 13,000+ lies.... there are many, many many more categories.
     
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