Why Indigeneous People Day?

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  1. vman12

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    Next leftists will start demanding Mexicans stop speaking Spanish.
     
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    My I remind everyone there are not indigenous people in the westen hemisphere. Everyones ancestors boated, swam, walked or snowshoed here. Some earlier than others, but all that came here has equal claim.
     
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    Well, not everyone...
     
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    Yes....after Columbus arrived, indigenous people didn't kill each other as much and started killing white people. Prove me wrong!
     
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    If you read the diary of Columbus, the ones he encountered kept the prisoners of other tribes in pens to be slaughtered and consumed. Maybe you should do a little reading yourself.
     
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    No different from Europeans. Or any other area of the world, for that matter.

    The only difference is that no people in history has engaged in genocide at the scale the Europeans have. Especially (but not exclusively) against American natives.

    And it's this why they have a right to be remembered.
     
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    Columbus, would not have set sail, if it were not for a Pope and the extension of the Roman Empire, which has never ended. It has nothing to do with Latinos and everything to do with the Doctrine of Discovery, the rise of power in the Roman Church Doctrine and the declared ownership of the world by those who would dare to own it outright. You still live under this Papal Bull, as well as others whether you know it or not. Your mission - should you choose to accept it - is to "discover" who you are in this world and how to reclaim your true self. Right now, you are considered to be Property, and there is a claim upon your life - know it or not.


    Excerpt from the Bull Inter Caetera, circa 1493:

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    Clearly, this has nada to do with being Latino. Latino's do not come into existence as a socially engineered term at the time this Bull was penned. This was continuation of the Roman Dogma that Constantine invoked more than 1,168 years BEFORE Columbus set sail. They had already designated the "Indigenous" People as subjects to be swayed to Catholicism, "as was the fashion of [their] ancestors." They viewed themselves as "renowned" which also means Set Apart from those they merely thought of as "residents and inhabitants of said "mainlands and islands." They literally saw themselves as sitting at the Center of the Universe, as gods with full command and authority over the entire world - YOU included.

    They changed the form of government but kept the religion. However, they never changed their ulterior motives relative to YOU, the residents and inhabitants of earth - whom they declare as their own Property. Don't believe it? Fine. If you are a US "Citizen" then I challenge you to go grab your Original Birth Certificate to prove it to yourself - that you are OWNED Property. I did not say, go grab a Copy of your Original Birth Certificate. I said, go get your Original Birth Certificate. If you can accomplish that task, I'll pay you $100,000 in cold hard cash. I'll never have to pay that debt, because you will NEVER obtain your Original Birth Certificate, as it has been long since sold to the highest bidder.

    So, "Indigenous" People, are VERY rare and VERY special people, not merely because they were here before Columbus, but primarily because they are not relegated to being part of the system of using Humans as Collateral - as YOU are being used today. This is why government treats them so poorly and has been trying to get rid of their offspring for centuries using all means up to and including genocide.
     
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    No wonder you're a Trump supporter. That myth is the 15th Century version of Fox News.
     
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    No, not even close to Historically accurate.

    You can verify that easily these days and the science of genetics helps us do exactly that. We've learned a lot through the "Human" genome project and we are learning more each day.

    Where did "everyone's" ancestors boat, swim or walk from, exactly? That point of origin for all Humanity in this world is roughly 1,100 km Southwest of what is now called "Kenya" according to DNA maps. Those people were Homogeneous Humans. There was no Caucasian DNA on the earth at that time. Caucasian is Homo Sapiens Sapiens who extends from Caucasoid who is Homo Sapiens, itself extending from Neanderthal and Neanderthal from Hominid.

    The first Hominid had 50% Human DNA and 50% Primate DNA (a now extinct Primate). Hominid, represented the 4th whole Biological Species on this planet together with Plants, Animals and Humans. Ergo, Human, predates the Hominid who does not arrive until 47,000 years ago. Humans, on the other hand have been on this planet for hundreds of thousands of years and migrated out of what you now call "Africa" in two major waves over the course of roughly 230,000 years up to about 125,000 years ago.

    So, when you say that there are no indigenous people in the western hemisphere, I seriously beg to differ with that new take on World History. Indigenous People are in fact Humans and this entire planet is their original home. They existed on this planet long before anyone else got here and they existed on nearly every continent now in existence before everyone else showed up somehow. Humans do not have Neanderthal DNA in their genus, nor do they have RH Positive blood. Only Caucasians have Neanderthal DNA and RH Positive blood. So, this tells you that Humans did not come from the same branch as Caucasians and that they are in fact a different Species. If they were the same Species, then Humans would also have Neanderthal DNA and RH Positive blood - which they don't.

    There has been back propagation of Neanderthal DNA and RH Positive blood into Human genetic lines over the millennia. However, original Humans do not have these genetic traits and are a distinct Species much older than Caucasians in this world.

    Ergo, Humans existed on the North American Continent many thousands of years before Columbus got here and all of them were in fact Indigenous by definition.
     
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    It is amazing how people ignore the fact that there are TWO (2) different Species walking the earth today. One Human and the other Caucasian or Non-African in Origin. That's all "Caucasian" means. Non-Human Original Human in origin. Non-African in Origin. Thus, Original Human was indeed "African." Except, there was no place on earth called "Africa" back then. Funny. We do not know what the land was called, because Western "civilization" did an outstanding job of destroying its History and re-writing an entire world paradigm out of existence.

    What we do know from science today is that Caucasian is not Fully Human. It descends from Caucasoid, Neanderthal and Hominid, which was part Human and part Primate. How do we know? Because, Humans and Primates cannot procreate together. They cannot naturally produce Hominid. That's how we know Caucasian does not descend directly from Human and must have come from a different genetic path - we now know to be that of Caucasoid, Neanderthal and Hominid. This means something else had to produce Hominid, but every Biological Scientist in the Western World continues to dance around this 500lb Gorilla in its midst.

    How much longer until we admit TWO (2) different Species on this planet? The science is crystal clear, yet the truth of the matter goes unspoken. There is is right there in print. The biggest news to hit planet earth since the break up of the Pangaea and the creation of the earth's continents is the fact that there are TWO (2) different Species on this planet. Both fully sentient, fully corporeal, upright and bipedial in proximity. Yet, one is Fully Human with no Neanderthal DNA and no RH Positive blood and the other has between 2% to as high as 4% Neanderthal DNA and whose blood will test RH Positive for Rhesus Monkey Factor.

    Jaw dropping news nobody talks about. TWO (2) different Species. One Fully Human. One Animal Human Hybrid. Nobody discusses it.

    Wow.
     
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    What's amazing is that people can graduate from Elementary School without accomplishing the most elementary level of education. Like learning the meaning of the word "species", for example.

    I bet you were home-schooled! ... Am I right?
     
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    What is a Species? It sure isn't what you've been brainwashed into believing. The differential between Genus and Species is the issue here. If you have Neanderthal DNA and RH Positive blood in you right now, what does that make you according to the actual science here:

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    Source: https://i.postimg.cc/c4tmMXt5/Postimage-486.png


    I'll surrender my PhD to your doorstep via FedEx if you can answer this question: How did Hominid come into existence?

    That's the real $64 question. No Hominid, no Neanderthal. No Neanderthal, no Caucasoid. No Caucasoid, no Caucasian - ergo - you would not exist. In the meantime, Human is all over this planet by 125,000 BCE while Caucasian in its present form does not show up in the archaeological record until 47,000 years ago.

    Home School? No. ERAU PhD, Aerodynamics. That was the first of three (3). You?
     
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    What cultures were not brutal?
     
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    That's true. Perhaps we should celebrate the Vikings? Or honor Eric the Red?

    But then again, some archaeologists state the first humans to come to the Americas – well before the ancestors of the American Indian – were stone-age Europeans more than 20,000 years ago.
     
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    Here it is again:

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    Source: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110718085329.htm

    Since you graduated from Jr. High School, what does the word "except" mean in the underlined partial sentence? Does it mean "Excluding" Sub-Saharan Africa and Australia? What does the word "all" mean in the partial sentence "....from all parts of the world to the Neanderthal haplotype?" Does that "include" everyone else while excluding "all" Sub-Saharan Africa including Australia?

    If Neanderthal produced Caucasoid and Caucasoid produced Caucasian, who produced Hominid and what was its genetic make up if Caucasian has Neanderthal DNA and RH Positive blood today? Asked another way, how in the world would it be even remotely possible for Caucasian to have Neanderthal DNA and RH Positive blood today, if both Caucasoid and Hominid did not have even higher amounts of the same up-line in their genetic branching?

    Why would you walk head first into this trap when there is no possible way out other than to admit that you are Part Human and Part Primate with both Neanderthal DNA and Rhesus Monkey blood flowing through your veins, while Humans have none of those traits. None. Zero. Nada. Is Nada a word? Oh, yes. That would be pseudo Spanish for Zip, or Italian for Get The **** Out Of Here. Yes? Or, do I have that wrong. I dunno - you be the judge.

    Take a blood test lately? Ever been tested for RH Factor? Did you test positive or negative? If you are Caucasian, then you most like tested Positive. If you are from the Sub-Saharan Region and never left, then you have never and will never test Positive for Rhesus Monkey Factor because your Ancestors did not swing from trees. Only those with Neanderthal DNA and RH Factor had Ancestors who swung from trees. The rest were Fully Human.
     
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    "Believing"? Do you think the meaning of words are a "belief".

    Look. I'm not actually interested in your nonsense. I'm just fascinated by how you just throw in an article and then go on an unrelated diatribe of pure silliness. Ah... but since you threw in an article, people are supposed to believe that the racist nonsense and the article are related.

    It's just so funny.

    Northside Elementary School, Ann Arbor, Michigan! Looks like even my elementary school is better in genetics than Embry-Riddle.
     
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    YES! You FINALLY got one right. Congratulations are in proper order for you, Sir. You just nailed it, but you probably have no earthly idea how or why. Your "beliefs" have EVERYTHING to do with the meaning given to the words that are ultimately handed to you, or more appropriate, shoveled down your throat through generations. Countless numbers of examples exist. The meaning behind the world "race" is but one of numerous examples of how society has been engineered to "BELIEVE" in something that in fact, NEVER existed.

    There is no such thing as RACE in the science of genetics. Someone made that up to control you and your thought process for a specific purpose. Likewise, the words "White" and "Black" DO NOT EXIST at the level of Science and only have permanence in the socially engineered reality that has been given for you to BELIEVE. The same holds true for technical terms like "Species" and "Genus." You have been led to believe that you are the same Species as Human, exactly the same way that you have been led to believe that you are "White" and that I am "Black."

    I am that I am. I am Human. Animal Human Hybrids ARE a different Species. It is not by allele characteristic alone, but by the full spectrum of HOW your chromosomes, RNA and DNA function that determines your Species. It is not by function of phenotype alone but by function of genotype that determines your Species characteristics. I do not, as one of may examples, have OCA-Type I or OCA-Type II gene dysfunction. All Caucasians on the planet do. However, the belief system has been so transformed in Western Society as to have turned what should be a classic disease (Melanocyte Dysfunction) into that which is classified as "normal." Ergo, you walk around believing that your failure to produce Human Melanin is "normal." You don't see it for what it is - a dysfunctional genetic trait inherited from the abnormal integration of both Primate DNA with Human DNA in the production (invention not evolution) of Hominid. This is but one classic case and example of how your beliefs are used to construct a delusional paradigm into which you follow the sheet music to the Nth degree without understanding how or why you do.

    Got it? Good, let's move on.


    I wonder if you even understand what's being said to you, let alone have the ability to formulate a reply on the merits of the science.


    If it was truly silly, then debunking the underlying premise would have been all too easy for you. Yet, you failed to do so. Why?


    An article which you have still failed to address, still failed to acknowledge and more than likely cannot keep up with. That's ok. This is the internet after all and I have to consider that fact when presenting such evidence on a technical basis. If you would like me to slow down a bit so that you can have more time to digest what you've been given, I can do that. However, pretending as if the title of the Scientific Article did not read...

    ALL NON-AFRICANS ARE PART NEANDERTHAL

    ... is a bit like being a passenger onboard the Hindenburg while proclaiming that fire and hydrogen make great companions and that burning smell is nothing more than grade "A" German barbecue. Not very wise, but as I say, this is the internet after all. Now, how did Hominid get here? Primates and Humans cannot procreate together. So, what is your explanation for how that monstrosity of a "Species" came into existence on this planet?

    I only offer the truth here. What you do with it is your problem and your problem alone.
     
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    You seem to be a Marxist revisionist in my estimation.
     
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    Because it’s their way of putting the least amount of effort into “righting the wrong” that liberals can do.

    They don’t have to give anything back. It doesn’t cost them anything.

    All complaining about Columbus Day really is to liberals is them being pissed off their employers, assuming they work, don’t value them enough to give them the day off.

    D’Souza actually addressed this topic once asking if the Sioux would give the land they conquered from the Hopi back. No. Why do they get to keep what they conquer but not Europeans?
     
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    Columbus never set foot in the Americas-duh...
     
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    Next the right will have a Hitler day of observance what with yer logic.
     
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    He's from Moronia. History books are written funny there...
     
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    Correct, although reaching islands off the coast and his becoming lost and mistaking the Americas for India eventually opened the way for the western hemisphere to become much more diverse and successful. Right?
     

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