US diplomat’s wife leaves UK after becoming suspect in fatal road crash

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  1. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    I don't think that she would be able to return to England without being arrested at the airport. Death by dangerous driving carries a hefty prison sentence. Up to 14 years and an unlimited fine .
     
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    So will her diplomat husband lose his job? I mean, HE aided and abetted her so if he returns he should have some 'splanin' to do also...
     
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  3. Montegriffo

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    He's probably a CIA spy so I doubt anything will happen to either of them .
     
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    From what the bereaved family are saying after they visited Donald Trump in the White House, they just avoided having their grief turned into a photo opportunity when the driver that killed their son (one of twins) was lurking in an adjoining room. The family are prepared to meet on British soil, not to have their misfortune exploited or the death of their son turned into American news channels entertainment.
    The lady ought to return to the UK and go through due process which I imagine would be especially meticulously and scrupulously fair given the publicity.
     
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    She may never be able to leave the USA again if she is turned over to Interpol.She will be a wanted fugitive.
     
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    Isn't that the damnedest thing you ever heard. Imagine Trump doing something like that. He's a fool.
     
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    The US did nor flee.

    You are the most ignorant poster that I have seen on here.
     
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    By not recognizing her gross mistake we are saying that should a Brit come here and drive on THEIR wrong side of the road, then killing an American they should be allowed to go scot free??????
     
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  9. Montegriffo

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    At least the family weren't stupid enough to fall for Trump's photo opportunity.
    If she wants to meet the family she can come back to England and accept her responsibility for their son's death.
     
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    Obvious abuse. May she be struck by lightning, or something.
     
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    The US fled with their tail between their legs. It's not as if this wasn't discussed in the high circles of foreign affairs to arrange such an escape when a diplomat killed somebody. The US are just yellow, because they do not dare to face the consequences when people die.
     
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    All we know at the present is the lady turned out of the base and on the wrong side of a narrow road,if that is the sum of her offence then she can expect a hefty fine and not a prison sentence. However we don't know if she took a breath test at the scene, which is the normal practice at the scene of an accident, or she refused claiming diplomatic immunity. Did she have a valid English driving licence? The details are very sketchy about this case and I wonder why.
     
  13. Montegriffo

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    It wasn't a narrow road, it was a two way road with a clear white line down the middle. Driving on the wrong side of the road is driving without due care and attention at best and dangerous driving at worst. Since someone was killed dangerous driving is the more likely charge.
    She wouldn't need a UK license, an international license would be sufficient for a temporary resident.
    With diplomatic immunity she wouldn't even need to have any license though as she couldn't be charged with any offence.
    The immunity should have been waived for such a clear violation of the law resulting in death.
     
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    VERY curious to know why The Guardian hasn't given a pic of the diplomat, the wife, or names etc.
     
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    Because the details hadn't been released at the time that article was written (5th Oct).
     
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    Let the authorities investigate. This is not about America, it is about what may be the unintended consequence of the Diplomatic Immunity rules.
    At the least the lady appears to have dodged a breath test or a blood/urine test which is an offence in itself under the law.
    No way did the lady intend this, but a young man has died and being regretful is not the same as facing up to responsibilities.
    Consider the position of the family before the position of the lady.
     
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    I can remember my father on at least one occasion when we were abroad on holiday saying 'oops I am on the wrong side of the road' so it can be done. However that was decades ago when if you could walk in a straight line you were not drunk, so I do not know about that part.
     
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    I have lived in the countryside for years and know these roads that were pictured at the scene of the accident. Of course in most cases they have a white line down the centre though there are some that do not, but that doesn’t alter the width of them and so it would be somewhat difficult to drive on for an American used to much wider roads. All we know is the lady made a tragic mistake and in court she would have to pay the price but it would be very unusual if the sentence passed was a custodial one. For that to be there would have to be a further offence committed i.e. driving at excessive speed, under the influence of alcohol or drugs, without a valid license etc.
    There’s a lot of evidence yet to come out before we know the full truth.
     
  19. truth and justice

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    Some details that I have not seen is that did she report the crash and was she breathalised or did she drive away?
     
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    This is not a narrow road and if it is difficult for an American to drive on they should catch a bus.
     
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    Those line markers makes one wonder at what point did she start using the wrong side of the road. It should have been obvious by the road markings and sign posts.

    But is there evidence that she was driving on the wrong side or was she just going down the middle of the road which is very common on those types of roads especially at night (still wrong though). And also i cycle a lot on these type of roads and many times have seen motor bikes going way over the max speed of 60mph riding along the centre of the road and ridden past many motorbike accidents involving no cars.
     
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    Apparently there is CCTV footage of her leaving the base on the wrong side of the road. The ''accident'' occurred about 200yds from the gate.
     
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    Yes, I loved their answer ...that they'd be happy to meet with her IN BRITAIN :)
     
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    It should have been obvious to her that she was in England and that she should drive on the left.



    Yes.



    Which was not the case and has no bearing on what happened.


    IF she had a good excuse she should have stayed in England and explained ;)
     
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    This is a clear abuse of the system of diplomatic immunity. The system was set up to avoid diplomats being arrested on trumped-up charges for political motives. This is not such a case. There is evidence of lawbreaking (driving without due care and attention/dangerous driving) resulting in the death of a young motorcyclist.
    Further proof that America cares nothing for even her closest allies.
    It is shameful.
     

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