Now people who identify as Liberal are War mongers

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  1. mitchscove

    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    Pelosi and the Democrats throw a temper tantrum because Trump didn't want our handful of soldiers acting as policemen to get in the middle of a war between Turkey and Kurdish militias. They used to tell us they were peace loving protectors of civil liberties. Boy were we fooled.
     
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    Or they could have wanted a strategic withdrawal that didn't leave our allies deserted and nuclear missiles in a now hostile country.

    Do you think its good that Turkey now has one of our bases and up to 50 nuclear warheads?
    If they test them on Israel will you think that’s also Pelosi’s fault?
     
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    "Liberals" - members of the DNC, "Progreesives" - whatever you want to call them have always been war mongers...it's one of the key elements of Stalinist ideological views
     
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    All else aside, if the US troops were acting as police preventing conflict between Turkey and the Kurds, how could objecting to them being withdrawn and essentially inviting Turkey to invade northern Syria, be considered warmongering?
     
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    That has nothing to do with Trump pulling out of Syria. If they are still there, the nukes were taken hostage in 2016 when Erdogan surrounded Incirlik during the failed coup attempt. Funny how you reassign Obama's follies to Trump with such ease.

    Thanks for reminding us how and when our relations with Turkey soured. I had forgotten.
     
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    They are still there, trump confirmed it in a tweet.
    Will you think this was a good strategy abandoning our position and our allies when they nuke Israel?
     
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    My guess is that Erdogan told Trump his army is on its way to defend against the terrorist Kurdish faction ,,, giving Trump a choice of either involving the US in a war or getting out of the way. So, either we mobilize for war or get out of town.

    The question then is whether there is anything to fight for in Syria. We currently aren't positioned to fight there with the troops we have there, s we may have had to fall back anyway.

    We don't know enough to really have an opinion.
     
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    I thought you can't believe a word Trump says. Now, when he tweets about nukes, you believe him. Hmmm.
     
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    The left cheered as we let northern Iraq fall under ISIS control.

    As far as the missles, Turkey isn't going to try to keep 50 nukes. They are not that stupid. We would withdraw our forces if need be, and they would let us or be at war with the US. It's not like they can take the missiles and shoot them at us.
     
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    Please quote me where I have ever said “you can’t believe a word trump says”.

    He routinely divulges classified information.

    Feel free to answer the question you have tried to dodge twice now.
     
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    I don’t support half of what “the left” does, but I must have missed that story.

    Let’s hope you are correct
     
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    You're confused. It was Plugs who divulged that Seal Team 6 was responsible for taking out bin Laden --- and then a bunch of them were killed.
     
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    The 28 troops that Trump pulled were not stationed in Incirlik and were not going to keep any nukes safe from appropriation by Turkey.
     
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    I don’t know who Plugs is

    Are you suggesting that events carried out by the “worst president in history” (the words of many republicans) justifies the actions of the “best president in history” (the words of many republicans. To be the best vs the worst y’all seem to compere them quite often
     
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    Which was totally staged, they went stomping out to a media gaggle with their microphone and cameras placed. To a logical person would could surmise that she has no intention of doing anything BUT oppose the President, no matter what. The Dems have one agenda, remove Trump from office.
     
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    Biden. Get with the program. When did you start quoting Republicans. I just raked my Republican Rep over the coals for his vote to stab Trump in the back over removing 28 troops who were sent to Syria for 1 month ,,, 10 years ago.
     
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    There are quite a few Republicans that aren't too happy about our governments actions n Syria either!!!
     
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    They were lied to and they believed the Schiff they were told. Pelosi is desperate. The Russian collusion hoax blew up. The Ukraine call hoax blew up. She manufactured news about Trump yesterday. She flipped over the memo that Trump sent to Erdogan, then stood up, yelled at him and stormed out. The threesome stormed out of the meeting early to meet the media who they gave the schedule to in advance ,,, claiming that Trump lost it. I hear they did the same thing during an infrastructure meeting on May 22. Have to find the video. Trump posted the picture of Pelosi going off on him on Twitter. Funny.

    Anyway, I went off on my Rep who voted with the corrupt enemy. I will tell the county GOP they won't get a dime from me. If they want donations, they can talk to Trump.
     
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    Liberals in America have a long track record being war mongers, actually getting America into a shooting war.

    But as soon as American boots hit the ground the liberals back stab the American troops and refuse to allow the American soldier to win the war and demand that America surrenders to the enemy.
     
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    Turkey using U.S. nuclear missiles is not possible for many reasons, but you should know that.

    You had no issues when Obama pulled out recklessly creating ISIS. This really should not be an issue, except the abandoning of the Kurds which is a re-occurring event over decades. It's not our fight. Let Turkey check Russia. That makes them more dependent on the West. In the big picture, I approve. I feel bad for the Kurds. Now we need to get out of Afghanistan and Iraq if that is alright with the war mongering Left?
     
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    Asinine post on your part. The Turks didn't invade until Trump pulled the troops. Turkey wanted to go after the Kurds for over a decade, but past US involvement of a peacekeeping force kept that from happening. Trump crapped on the floor and cleaned half of it up - you want praise for him? **** that noise.
     
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    Dude - it's the Republicans who have blown a gasket over Trump's withdrawal of troops in such a haphazard manner. It's hundreds of retired military who are pissed about it. Talk to them.
     
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    Please quote me where I have ever said or even alluded to such blatant lies.
     
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    It's Establishment Republicans and Democrats.

    The Hundreds of Retired Military is just PROPAGANDA. I can get the same opposite result from hundreds of other retired military that align with Tulsi Gabbard. Quit falling for that crap.
     

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