Schiff pushed Volker to say Ukraine felt pressure from Trump

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  1. MolonLabe2009

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    After reading Volker's testimony, it's no wonder that the Democrats have to conduct their witch hunt behind closed doors.

    The following pretty much sums up the Democrats' determination to find a crime where one does not exist...

    When Volker repeatedly declined to agree to Schiff's characterization of events, Schiff said, "Ambassador, you're making this much more complicated than it has to be."

    It's pretty unnerving to think that the Democrats would stoop so low to conduct closed door investigations in search of a crime. These are nothing more than Gestapo tactics.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...olker-to-say-ukraine-felt-pressure-from-trump
     
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    So why does the LW bring up the popular vote when it suits them, ad nauseum?
     
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    So the side placing value on clear and well defined trends is showing political bias? I think you’re confusing is for someone else.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In my experience it typically happens after every poll is dismissed because conservatives don't like the findings ad nauseum — because they showed Hillary winning in 2016 — polls track popular vote.
     
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    It represents the prevailing opinions of the constituencies of law makers. If you don’t think they’re watching them closely, then you either have a low opinion of your representative or you don’t think lawmakers are interested in keeping their jobs.
    Let me know when the electoral college is expected to weigh in on the impeachment.
     
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    lol, what clear and well defined trends?
     
  8. Thought Criminal

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    Oh, go on. He didn't ask "tough" questions. He asked leading questions.

    (If the report is true.)
     
  9. DaveBN

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    The ones indicated when a polling organization presents its findings and other independent polling organizations present similar findings. This allows us to identify trends.
    When we see studies that present information that does not line up with other studies, the ones you all love so much, it allows us to view their info with a more critical eye. Large variations in data tends to indicate an issue with methodology.
     
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    Not surprising, he’s a former prosecutor
     
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    The absence of evidence is well known. That is why there will never be a vote on impeachment.

    Pelosi is calculating that Trump will suffer more political damage, from the perpetual clown shows, than the Democrats.
     
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    The same reason fbi Interviews aren’t public
     
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    It’s all BS with politics. It is way too easy to fudge numbers and cherry pick things to say exactly what you want them to. Both sides are guilty of it. It is best to ignore polls until after Election Day.
     
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    You conduct an investigation to gather evidence. That’s the point. If there is no evidence to support the belief that a crime has been committed then the case does move forward to trial. The house knows if they don’t vote eventually it will reflect poorly on them and the Democrats will suffer. They are going to vote. They just aren’t in a rush to send a poorly conducted investigation off to a quick death.
     
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    You can ignore them if you like. I guarantee your representatives in government aren’t.
     
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    No, it is willful ignorance or cognitive dissonance that makes people unable to comprehend that Hillary actually lost the election so they need to find a way to amend the previous election results through copious accusations.
     
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    Who’s the source on this? Was the transcript released?
     
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    There will never be a vote on impeachment.
     
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    This is the same slimy behavior we saw from the Swamp in the Mueller investigation.
     
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    So what line will you adopt once they’ve held their vote?
     
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    Congress is not the FBI.
     
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    Excellent analysis. But they’re investigating potential crimes none the less
     
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    They won't.

    Maybe they'll vote on the clown show, but there won't be a vote on impeachment.
     
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    What potential crimes?
     

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