Mick Mulvaney publicly confirms Trump held up Ukraine aid for political gain

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  1. FreshAir

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    sure there was, that is an impeachable offense, the President can't use foreign governments to go after political opponents like that, even most republican agree what Trump did was wrong
     
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    BS!

    Trump never pressured Zelensky and Zelensky publicly stated that he didn't know the aid was frozen during the call and never felt pressured during the call.

    Stop making crap up!
     
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    Just lol
     
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    Sure pal, keep telling yourself that
     
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    the worst argument I have seen yet, yes, he is one of many Presidential candidates that may go up against Trump, that makes him a political opponent
     
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    Mulvaney never made a connection between military aid being frozen and Trump pressuring Ukraine to investigate the Biden's.

    Stop wasting valuable bandwidth.
     
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    What was illegal about Trump's call?
     
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    LOL... how can something like that be "on record"?? What somebody knew or didn't know....

    What, did Mick say that outloud somewhere? And that's "on record" for you...

    If Mulvaney never put those 2 things together, it's for 1 of 2 reasons, both believable

    1. Mulvaney wasn't in the loop on Trump's ultimate plan.
    2. Mulvaney didn't want to know Trump's ultimate plan
     
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    This has been explained dozens of times !!!!!
     
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    The f*** he didn't. He mentioned both of them by name and asked for them to be looked into while funds were simultaneously being withheld. These facts are not in dispute.
    The ONLY defense you have is to say they weren't related. And some people will believe that. And some people are idiots.
     
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    Not on an Biden investigation but you know that, if you watched the pc he also talked about the EU, and several countries involved in Ukraine corruption, then was asked about that and he said the stuff that went on in 2016. I thought the dems wanted to get to the bottom of the election interference in 2016, now it's impeachable. Ofcourse, everything is quid pro quo with foreign aid, good grief think about it a little.
     
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    nm
     
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    yep, first it was there was no quid quo pro, now that caught they admit there was quid quo pro.... amazing

    does this President ever tell the truth
     
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    Hmmm... will he lead off with "NO QUID PRO QUO" again???

    Whatever... deplorables gonna deplorable... Enjoy them while you can, folks...
     
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    1. Biden is not Trump political opponent BECAUSE HE'S NOT EVEN THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE.
    2. Zelenksy publicly stated that he was unaware of the aid being frozen during the call
    3. Zelensky publicly stated that he never felt pressured during the call
    So, what crime was committed?
     
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    When did Biden win the Democratic nomination?

    *crickets*
     
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    the Trump admin knows this is going down bad for them
     
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    Nope. Biden is not Trump's political opponent.

    The Democratic nominee will be Trump's political opponent.
     
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    Better yet, when can he be believed?....Makes Sara Palin at least a high school grad!....LOL!
     
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    And has been debunked dozens of times.
     
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    It was a key part of the complete extortion plot against Ukraine...

    But you need to re-focus on Mulvaney... We've pounded the phone call into the ground...
     
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    If he isnt a political opponent......?So he was asking for a investigation to a American privet citizen?.....LOL....These clowns are grabbing anything they can to make excuses for a fool! LOL!
     
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    Wow. I'd say every dem in the field right now is a political opponent. I'd wager that most people would say the same thing - especially because biden was the front-runner at the time of the call. But carry on, the sand must be comforting to you.
     
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    Why do you left-wingers constantly ignore the fact that...
    1. Zelenksy publicly stated that he was unaware of the aid being frozen during the call.
    2. Zelenksy publicly stated that he did not feel pressured during the call.
    So, where's the fricking QPQ????
     
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    In fact, Trump was referring to a different set of Bidens.. He never actually said JOE and HUNTER Biden, correct??

    You ever watch somebody completely sink in quicksand??
     

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