Mick Mulvaney publicly confirms Trump held up Ukraine aid for political gain

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  1. ronv

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    Why? There will probably be another confession tomorrow.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unless Barr arrests her, it will be obvious that all of these attacks on her were just political slime. You guys are really obsessed with this old broad. What’s up with that?
     
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    “If the White House was withholding aid in regards to the cooperation of any investigation at the Department of Justice, that is news to us,” a senior Justice Department official said. Mr. Durham was seen leaving the Justice Department around midday Thursday.
     
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    More Trump hating propaganda. This story is totally false.
     
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  5. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not about 'the old broad' Hillary Clinton, it's about corruption in politics.

    Leftists tend to take this personally, every Democrat politician is a hero to them, and they must protect their heroes. Your post makes that clear.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Democratic Party of today is one of the filthiest most corrupt parties in US History. However they are not even close to this new Trump GOP. These guys make Nixon look like a Boy Scout.
     
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    LOL! That's news to him? The Swamp needs cleaning.
     
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    You continue to share your feelings but what about actual facts?
     
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    ALL Politicians (and Political Parties) are "Corrupt".

    Every election is ultimately a pick between the "Lesser of Evils".

    It is what it is. :salute:
     
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    Tucker Carlson disagrees with you:

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/03/tucker-and-patel-truth-about-impeachment/
    So does Breitbart:

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...shares-image-political-opponents-behind-bars/
     
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    Mulavaney said so.

    I guess it's a wrap then.
     
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    Nah...He would just say his words were quoted out of the context. But hey, there are some people who blatatantly and knowingly lied to the congress and senate under the otath....Brennan, Clapper, Comey etc...What should Americans do about it?

    Also I believe that any decent and honest American would like to know what is on that Ukrainian server. Don't you think so?
     
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  13. Egoboy

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    Really?? Going fake news, are you??

    It was a live press conference, not a report from unnamed sources.. and why would Mick hate Trump enough to spread this 'propaganda'??

    Your spin attempt is completely ridiculous..
     
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    Donald could come out on the White House lawn and of course I used the promise of military aid money to Ukraine to buy dirt on that old half blind Joe Binding that is done all of the time.

    He fans and worse yet the Eunachs of the Senate aka Donald supporters will never remove this cancer on heart and mind of our country.
     
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    It is adorable how you think that unless Trump used those exact words in his conversation with the president of Ukraine, he could not have been inappropriately leveraging his power to gain an advantage over his political rival.
     
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    First, let's address that you added the word "current" when I merely said domestic political opponent. Hillary Clinton is a domestic political opponent even if you think she is not current, right?

    But second, the fact that trump still boasts about defeating Hillary, still references her in speeches, and is still actively seeking to cast the interference in the Russian interference of the 2016 election makes Hillary Clinton a current domestic political rival.
     
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    There is zero reason to push an impeachment vote simply because you or the Republicans think taunting is a good strategy. The investigation continues, interviews continue despite a trump order to keep their mouth shut, and support for impeachment continues to go up (and it is already well last a plurality and is at an outright majority according to several polls).

    Trump is a ****ing moron who still thinks that thing is a word for word transcript and that it is absolutely perfect. Not to mention that he only released it after the announcement of the impeachment inquiry because he was ****ing dumb enough to think it would help his case.

    And if trump had found probable cause for believing a criminal act existed, he would have referred the evidence to a domestic investigative agency. And then they would have made the request, through proper channels, if they wanted the cooperation of a foreign government.

    But trump did not have any evidence. He just wanted campaign assistance from a foreign government in the form of an investigation against his domestic political rival while he simultaneously and unilaterally held up hundreds of millions in military aid and a requested meeting. Then he tried to hide, lie about, and obstruct the investigation.
     
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    And a person who points a gun at you and demands in your money is still guilty even if he doesnt say, " this is a robbery."
     
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    Yet still nothing. Everyone directly involved says no quid pro quo. The media is misinterpreting what Mulvaney said by taking it out of context and applying the dem clown show narrative. I read what he said and what the news reports and they are two different things.
     
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    I think there are trumpettes willing to do anything to believe any conspiracy espoused by trump. Even if other members of his administration have repeatedly and explicitly told him and you that the conspiracy theory has zero basis in fact.

    And Mulvaney can claim that his words were taken out of context, and some people may even believe him, but he is ****ing wrong. He was asked about quid pro quo, he admitted to a quid pro quo, and then reporters asked him if he realllllllly meant to say that a quid pro quo took place and he said, "it happens all the time...get over it."
     
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    Only according to the dem clown show narrative but yes, Clapper and Comey that I know of lied to Congress. There is an investigation into how the Russian Collusion hoax started and it involves the Obama admin that weaponized intel and the IRS against political opponents. Illegal access to NSA data by the Obama admin was also uncovered by two judges and ongoing investigations.

    The dem clown show narrative about Mulvaney ingores the actual testimony by taking one sentence out of context and why they are holding secret interviews so they can control the narrative to the democrat industrial media complex.

    What Mulvaney said about 'it happens all the time' was about political influence on foreign policy. You show adroitly how the narrative is created to twist the meaning of statements.
     
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  23. Egoboy

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    Whomp, there it is....

    Excellent recap there...
     
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    Yes, there it is, the false dem clown show narrative.

    Rep. Mark Meadows: "To date, every single witness, every single fact, has not supported any aid pause or hold-up in foreign aid being attached to any conditions, and that's been consistent with every witness that we've heard from."
     
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    Yeah, recordings are fake :)
     

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