Mulvaney spills the beans.

Well who was he suppose to give it from? The president was the guy in charge and wanted that made clear to his staff

 

Mulvaney said this just after the get over it part:
QUESTION: But — wait. No, no. On the call, the president did ask about investigating the Bidens. Are you saying that the money that was held up, that that had nothing to do with the Bidens? And you’re —

MULVANEY: Yeah. No, the money held up had absolutely nothing to do with Biden. There’s no — and that was the point I made to you.

QUESTION: — And you’re drawing the distinction? You’re saying that it would be wrong to hold up money for the Bidens —

MULVANEY: — There were three — three factors. Again — I was involved with the — the process by which the money was held up temporarily, okay? Three issues for that: the corruption in the country, whether or not other countries were participating in the support of the Ukraine, and whether or not they were cooperating in an ongoing investigation with our Department of Justice. That’s completely legitimate.



It seems like people are taking a sound bite out of the interview and disregarding everything else. There is appropriate quid pro que and inappropriate. The question is which is this? In the end though I don't think it will matter. This will be decided by the election not by impeachment.

 

Certain folks have nothing but parody

 

Says the guy who can't read the sentence and understand what it means.

 

His testimony was that Trump told him no quid pro quo. This cannot be used to prove the reverse of the statement.

 

You saw him you heard him... how can you say it is not what you saw and heard

 

The title of the article says "Mulvaney acknowledges Trump held up Ukraine aid for political reasons" which is a lie.

Mulvaney never said that Trump held up aid for political reasons.

 

From the NYT.............

Mick Mulvaney’s quid pro quo has put Republicans in a bind.
White House officials knew almost immediately that President Trump’s acting chief of staff had opened a whole new controversy when he said military aid to Ukraine had been put on hold this summer to pressure Kiev to investigate the president’s theory that Ukraine — not Russia — was behind the 2016 election interference. Mr. Mulvaney tried to clean it up hours later and deny what everyone saw — that he said there was a quid pro quo.

The fallout might be beginning.

Representative Francis Rooney, Republican of Florida, told reporters on Friday that he was “shocked that he said that stuff” and said that Mr. Mulvaney’s remarks could not easily be walked back.

 

Granted, we need to write the ending, but it’s over.

 

Ditto Mulvaney is not in trouble with Trump bum kissers because he parroted the party line.

Even Fox News Host Ed Henry found Ditto's feeble attempt to blame "the media" for accurately reporting what he said silly:

“I’m not sure what Mick Mulvaney’s case is. The media is to blame for writing down what he said, for Fox recording on video what he said? He stood at the podium and connected the dots for Democrats!...“So if it’s the media’s fault, I’m not quite sure why the White House chief of staff is clarifying.” ​

 

You mean except for all the evidence and witness testimony proving the opposite is true and Mick Mulvaney spilling the beans, right?

 

The "unproven conspiracy theory" has been completely debunked. Either, Trump is a complete idiot and he didn't know that. Or, he was using the conspiracy theory as a deception. Trump's real intention was obvious to everyone. He wanted the Bidens investigated.

And Mulvaney just admitted that quid pro quo was used for that purpose. All of sudden, the main defense used by Trump, Trump's colleagues in Congress, Trump's commentators on conservative media, and Trump's friends on PF goes up in smoke.

“Did [Trump] also mention to me in the past the corruption related to the DNC server?” Mulvaney said. “Absolutely, no question about that. But that’s it, and that’s why we held up the money.”

Then he told us that is how things work with Trump. “I have news for everybody: Get over it. There’s going to be political influence in foreign policy.”

Did you read the part about "why we held up the money?"

The reason I ask is because Mulvaney conveniently forgot what he said to a national television audience, the video appearing on every major network.

After Trump’s lawyer and other Republicans distanced themselves from Mulvaney, the White House scrambled to walk back his comments, issuing an official statement blaming the media for misconstruing his words “to advance a biased and political witch hunt against President Trump.” You know, that is almost funny. Does anyone backing Trump follow the news?

“Let me be clear,” Mulvaney’s written statement said, “there was absolutely no quid pro quo between Ukrainian military aid and any investigation into the 2016 election. There was never any connection between the funds and the Ukrainians doing anything with the server . . . there was never any condition on the flow of the aid related to the matter of the DNC server.” Now that is funny.

That is a popular tactic with Trump's supporters because Trump does such outrageous things. The only way to defend him is to lie. Black is white. Day is night.

Truth is a lie!

It is a popular tactic, but it is a moronic and infantile tactic that makes a fool of the user.

Mulvaney hasn't been fired yet. It is probably only a matter of time. Trump doesn't want to make it too obvious.

 

The only way it could have been a QPQ is if Zelensky knew about the aid being frozen and if Zelensky felt pressured.

Well, we already know that Zelensky publicly stated that he was unaware that the aid was frozen during the call and Zelensky publicly stated that he did not feel pressured during the call.

Therefore, no QPQ.

I'm glad that I was able to clear that up for ya!

 

More of the famous Shanks 2+2 = 145. Please to our increasingly insane media, Trump knew going in he didn't really need an investigation just quote Biden's own words to the Ukrainian president rely on the army of white house leakers and voila something that the Dems especially Biden supporters would have been better off to ignore gets spattered all over the news for a month and we go from Biden front runner to Biden chasing Lizzie the fraud. It's amazing how thoroughly the man can play you guys. It is this very one hand washes the other business as usual BS out of DC that fully infuriates the tax payers and no it doesn't matter a damn if it is illegal or not. And yes it is also True that no one outside the Belt way gives a crap about the Doral hosting the G7 at cost.

 

His testimony ALSO was that he supposedly had no idea if it was true...in spite of the fact that he had been engaging in pushing the quid pro quo for months and it was memorialized in text messages

 

The aid has been frozen at least a week prior to the phone call and Rudy had been buzzing around Ukraine (and in Zelensky's orbit...which we know from references in the phone call) for months demanding both an investigation and the Russia exoneration

 

Zelensky publicly stated that he was unaware of the aid being frozen at the time of the call and Zelensky publicly stated that he never felt pressured during the call.

Try to keep up with the facts.

 

So obvious he was nervous as hell. He should have stuck to the topic at hand.

 

But the quid pro quo involved potential Ukrainian election meddling, not the Bidens. Which is also what Mulvaney testified to.

 

That is demonstrably false.

The President: Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.

 

There is no QPQ because Zelensky stated publicly that he was unaware that the aid was frozen during the call and Zelensky stated publicly that he did not feel pressured during the call.

Stop making this phone cal into something that it isn't.

 

Pssssst. Mulvaney admitted it was a QPQ. There's no point in denying it now. The new talking point is, "get over it."

 

Pssssst! Mulvaney's wrong because like I said before Zelensky stated publicly that he was unaware that the aid was frozen during the call and Zelensky stated publicly that he did not feel pressured during the call. So, where's the QPQ?

*crickets*

 

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Lol...Zelensky wants $$$ from trump.

 

Then prove that Zelenksy knew about the aid being frozen while on the call and prove that Zelensky felt pressured during the call.

*crickets*