Democrat Primaries Costing

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  1. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is really a question aimed at Democrats but of course, everyone is welcome to pile in.

    The policies the candidates are promising, how much will they cost and what effect on the deficit and national debt will they have?
     
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    NO ONE has had the slightest regard for how much things are costing and how our national debt is skyrocketing under the current administration???So why all of a sudden the concern regarding Democrats????
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Conservatives are only concerned about costs when they don’t have the credit card.
     
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    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    Maybe it's because Republicans aren't proposing new multi-trillion dollar spending binges, but Democrat presidential candidates are.
     
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    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That goes both ways, the only group that really was fired up about reducing costs was the tea party, and they were considered quite the nuisance.

    the gop/dem's generally just tend to want to spend in different area's but they both like to spend.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Im just here to see if any D's will attempt to answer the question.

    Im putting money on nothing but '...but Trump!'
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where are they now?

    At least one party wants to spend in areas that make others lives better.
     
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    This isn't important.

    The eleventy billion dollars dems want us to spend on illegal immigrants is irrelevant.

    The true story is using taxpayer money for Doral.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Says the people who want to put 90 trillion dollars on it.
     
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    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Being an upper middle class cash cow milked by the government for decades, all I can say is GIVE MY TEETS A REST!
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would ask for a source on that but we both now thats a lie
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're welcome to educate yourself on the costs associated with the proposals by Warren and others, but we both know you won't.

    If you were interested in knowing, you already would.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Someone has to pay for the difference of multinationals paying $0.00 in federal taxes.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most analysts have put the net taxpayer saving as positive on a public healthcare program (aka we would be out less than we are now) so again, I don’t think you know what you are talking about.
     
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    Two wrongs do not make a right. How are the Republicans going to fix the system we have and how are the Democrats going to really pay for all the stuff they are promising? It is amazing how we reward irresponsible behavior in this country. The answer of course is we are not going to institute any of these peoples plans because there is just not that kind of money in our country.
     
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    Makes lives better? Depends on your POV, I very much appreciated the tax cut, I saved just under 2K, and it made my life better. (and my front yard, it went right back into the economy because I hired people to do the work)

    The freebies don't interest me: For example I think college is expensive yes but the ones that go about it the smart way (in state) and get the right degrees are doing quite well and don't regret a thing. Those that drag out college for 5-6 years and get the wrong degrees have regrets, not my fault.
     
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    Why worry ... we know the Mexicans will pay for it ...

    Simple facts from the Dept. of the Treasury.

    Reagan increased the national debt 170%.
    Clinton increased the debt 39%.
    Bush increased the debt 101%.
    Obama increased the debt 89%.
    Trump on track to tie Obama.

    My bet is for a Republican Congress and a Democrat President as the best combo to reduce the debt.
     
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    Spending under the current administration has barely climbed during Trumps presidency.

    The left yells and screams when tax cuts are afforded to the contributors of this nation, but when the leeches get something for free the left falls silent.
     
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    Cop out. We all have the credit card regardless of who is elected.

    Spending under Trump is basically the same as it was under Obama.
     
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    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    in defense of Obama, his last deficit was pretty good (by comparison) I wasn't happy to see it jump up after Trump, but I'll also admit I don't truly understand the finer points of the military spending.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The deficit jump under Trump is almost exclusively interest on prior debt. His spending didn't increase.
     
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    Bzzzz.

    The increasing levels of red ink stem from a steep falloff in federal revenue after Mr. Trump’s 2017 tax cuts, which lowered individual and corporate tax rates, resulting in far fewer tax dollars flowing to the Treasury Department. Tax revenues for 2018 and 2019 have fallen more than $430 billion short of what the budget office predicted they would be in June 2017, before the tax law was approved that December.

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    The need to borrow more money has been aggravated by several bipartisan budget agreements to raise military and nondefense domestic discretionary spending.

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    “One likely reason for the lower-than-expected receipts is that some parts of the economy have been weaker than C.B.O. projected in April 2018,” the budget office said. “A number of developments other than the tax act appear to have contributed to that weakness, including increases in tariffs, greater uncertainty about trade policy and slower economic growth in the rest of the world.”

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    That damage would be even higher if not for lower-than-expected interest rates, which are reducing the amount of money the government has to pay to its lenders. Still, the 2019 deficit is projected to be 25 percent larger than it was in 2018, and the budget office predicts it will continue to rise every year through 2023.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/21/...rillion-next-year-budget-office-predicts.html
     
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  23. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Correct, it isn't under the current administration and it certainly didn't under the last one. So, back to the question after that short derail.
     
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    So have you got your answer from the libs? Have "but but orange man bad, but but Republicans bad" responses satisfied your curiosity and alleviated your concerns? Lol
     
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  25. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No idea, I just wondered what the democrats costings were. Do they actually know?
     

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