Erdogan threatens Europe with 3.6 million new refuges if they continue to criticize " Peace Spring"

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  1. The Rhetoric of Life

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    EU isn't Europe, UK's in a great place to have a deal with the US since UK's in Europe; That's how a UK US deal could benefit the US and in return UK can have somebody to trade with.
     
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    Turks aren't arabs.
     
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    I must add, what do you think Brexit is about?
    Why should UK invest into EU's outsourcing to Turkey for?
    You're in Germany, you pay for it, UK's out.
     
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    What's the EU going to do? Intercept transatlantic shipping? - I'm joking, but, what if the EU doesn't like what UK does, what's EU going to do?
    EU's just going to have to sit by and pay Turkey if it wants and respect what the UK wants to do if the UK doesn't want to, got it?
    A clean break Brexit would enable UK to not pay for what the EU does or jive the European Court of Justice anywhere in the UK and free the UK to trade with whoever it wants however it wants even if 'Singapore on the Thames'/London tax haven is a result.
     
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    Maybe Iran will give the EU a quick training course on intercepting ships on the high seas.
     
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    Siding with Assad is the only move the Kurds have left and it was a good one.

    Turkey has one motive, to crush autonomy for a Kurdistan on it's border so I think it's policy of a safe zone for refugees is smoke and mirrors to try and get international support for its incursion.

    I agree. When Syria and it's allies get serious about defending Syria's borders it will not go well for Turkey.

    As it stands, because of Trump the US has lost any influence over the outcome - which may be for the best.

    Hopefully this won't blow up into a wider conflict.
     
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    We have to look at who can afford to continue to pay Turkey to hold the EU's refugees once the EU 28's 4.3 Billion Euro's is spent in 2020.
    France? Germany? NL? Italy?
     
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    Friendly advice to the EU; to countries is to stop hating on Syrian refugees giving Erdogan this money and ability to threaten this and have a rich country like Germany have a mass migration; for once.
     
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    They currently flood over the channel into uk and will continue to do so. As well as isis terrorists. Our security is your security. Thats the simple fact. You will continue to finance those programs.
     
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    Why?
    Why can't we pay Germany to house them or better yet, Germany pays to house them with it's 15bn Euros and give the rest of the EU a break; as for UK, Brexit means UK doesn't have to look to Europe, like a British Monroe Doctrine for UK's right for self determination and the right to say that's your problem, not ours, you pay for that.
     
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    I think you underestimate the Turkish Army. It is rather well equipped.
    Neither Syria nor Russia have the quality equipment in Syria.

    Naturally it is not about a safe zone, but to get control about the Kurdish controlled areas and destroy its fighting forces.
     
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    Wales has lots of room to house those refugees.
    Europe should just ship them there. Pay the UK a few billions, it will need the money after Brexit.
    It is anyhow already half arse broke.
     
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    Europe should tell Turkey to go to hell.
     
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    But Wales won't be in the EU for much longer and Germany has apprently 15bn Euros it doesn't know what to do with this year and the EU 28 has given Erdogan 4.3bn Euros over 6 years ending in 2020 to take care of them instead.
    Why should Wales who's leaving the EU? Why should Hungary who hasn't got 15bn Euros to spare? Why can't Germany? Why won't Germany?
     
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    Quite easy. If we lower their standards here beloe your standards, they flood into UK. And no, we dont house them.

    We too habe a right for self determination. We too can say thats your problem, not ours. Then you have the problem.
     
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    The United States of America. Name one culture or country that has no representatives here.
     
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    USA is in the process of dieing. Ripped apart internal and losing influence abroad.

    People never follow diversity, they always stay in their own groups. Thats why you have ghetto, slums ect.
     
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    Hardily since UK never paid Turkey like the EU did, therefore it's EU's refugees, EU's problem, and UK's leaving the EU making it your problem, not ours.
    Demanding countries like Hungary house refugees is wrong since Germany can afford to and Hungary can't, but, frankly, whatever you do in the EU is up to you.

    You're either going to have to pay Turkey without UK money or house them yourself to stop Erdogan's threats. But whatever you do it's a matter for EU and Germany, not UK.
     
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    Yes you do pay. You are part of the EU. You also signed the contract with Turkey.

    I have a better option, lower standards for migrants below your level and let them go UK. They speak english. They will do good over there.

    BTW i have news for you. UK is Europe and will stay Europe. UK doesnt leave Europe.

    Germany already did accept 1.5 millions in 2015. More than anyone else. We have no integration capacity left anymore. Now its for others.
     
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    Surreee we are

    Your country was unified as all get out in 1939-45, do you remember what happened then?
     
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    Yes i know what happened then. Our unity led us to show the strongest willpower to not jut rebuild our nation but to make it one of the most powerful economies in the world.

    Quite a sucess story. Same counts for Japan. Anotehr country without diversity. Meanwhile diverse Brazil was a shithole then and is now. Same counts for all diverse countries.

    Each group works for itself, no unity. No sucess.
     
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    Germany clearly can handle all of it
    just ask Sobo he claims they got so much money they can't spend it all
     
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    The USA wasn't a shithole in 1939-45. As I recall we kicked your unified butts up behind your ears

    Ask your grandparents how much German unity helped y'all out in 1946 (assuming they were there) See the movie "Grave of the Fireflies" and realize it's pretty much taken from Japanese postwar reality . Tell me how much your "unity" helped them out then.

    Racial Fascists are all the same. "All we have to do is make sure everybody is PERFECT and we're fixed, and since WE"RE all perfect all we gotta do is get rid of anyone not exactly like us, what a brilliant solution".

    For gods's sake look at nature one time. Why can't you **** your sister? You're both healthy and have no genetic disorders, your kids'll turn out great, right?
     
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    USA kicked nothing. It did not even participate in the war until it was over. Germany fought all,world,powers at once.

    If Germany would have been "diverse" , it would not have been able to stand up after 1945. It would still be broken, poor. It would not be rebuild. Ut would be slums, broken apart and the factions fighting each other for scraps. Same counts for Japan.

    And using your example, why split all diverse countries into groups? Why dont brazilians mix? Why theyhave white quarters, black quarters? Why do south africans dont mix?

    Or to use your nature example, why dont you produce kids with a baboon?
     
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    UK's leaving EU and EU isn't Europe.
     

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