I watched a Joe Rogan comedy bit on netflix. He said hes sexist because he doesnt care about men getting raped, only women. I sortof agree, in the sense that I only feel angry about rape when the victim is a woman (or a child, oc). Logically, I view rape of men as just as unacceptable as rape of women. However, I don't have nearly the same emotional response to rape of men as rape of women. I want vengence on the rapists of women. Of men... meh, men should get over it. Like I said, this is my emotional response, not my logical position. Im curious where all stand. And because this is, after all, a political discussion site, I wanna see how the views compare across the aisles.
Sorry, I refuse to side either left or side so I couldn't answer your poll. I would vote "I'm equally offended". You just have to know it's a natural phenomena, there is many psychology experiences showing that women get more attention than men, by both men women. Both men and women would also prefer to save a woman of man. Other experiences have shown that both men and women tended to see more qualities in women, and their problem as more concerning. That experience was led by a woman and it's now known as the "WaW" effect, "Women are Wonderfull". It's just written in our genes, nothing you can do about that. The life of a man will always be less valuable than the one of a woman, especially if she is pretty. It's true from a reproductive point of view, if there is as much man than woman, there is always more fertile men than fertile women, and a fertile man can fertilize many fertile women, as the opposite isn't true. Men are the supernumary and dispensable sex. There is no reasons to be offended or sad of this. The philosopher Emil Cioran spoke of the joy to be useless.
I see your point, our emotional response isn't always the right response. Our emotions always need to be held in check by reality.
I have to agree with what is said. It may not be a popular position to take but I would rather be raped then have a woman around me be subjected to it. Not because I would enjoy the experience but because I would rather spare her the experience.
What ever happened to being offended by rape, regardless to who commits the act? A boy being raped by a women, whom he trusts has just as long of an impact as a women being raped by a man. As a matter of fact, boys being raped by fathers and uncles are another issue that needs to be addressed.
Society in general agrees with you. All you have to do to see evidence of this is look into how many battered women's shelters that are only for women there are in the US vs how many for men. I can count on one hand how many there are for men. I'd need over 100 peoples hands to count how many there are for women. Women in our society are treated VERY differently from men. Men are expected to "get over it" or Man Up. Woe be to any man though if they so much as LOOK at a woman when they don't want you to.
I don't see the difference. A rape is a rape. I have the same emotional response to the rape of a man as I do the rape of a woman. Both are horrible actions. Physiologically speaking, rape of a man is probably more harmful than rape of a woman. BTW, I'm talking about forcible rape, not different kinds of statutory rape.
Uh, excuse me but """ Physiologically speaking, rape of a man is probably more harmful than rape of a woman""" ????? !!!! Do you care to explain that ?
That is because more women are battered and murdered by their partners than men. Need shelters for men? Then do what women did...OPEN SOME SHELTERS....take responsibility like women did!!!!!
In my mid teens when my neighbors wife seduced me I never thought I was being raped. I thought I had the best thing in the world going for me. I will always think fondly of that lady.
Yeah, when I was sixteen I was sleeping with my boss's wife... at his request. They were in their early 30s - older than most of the women I date now! LOL!!!! In his words, he couldn't keep her happy and needed help. But the first time, they actually set me up. They got me really drunk and then she put the moves on me. He ended up watching us have sex. But after that I just stopped by after school. You can't rape the willing.
According to the law, you were unable to concent then the fact they got you drunk first. That's certainly date rape nowadays. At least it would be if you were female
Yep, but I considered it the best thing to come along since masturbation. Also, at that time, the age of consent was 18. One day my mother got a sense that something was going on. I realized that I had to be really careful because if my parents found out, they could press charges.
What if you were the parent and the person in question was your daughter? Again not discussing the right and wrong of it but the disparity of our thinking based on the "victim's " gender.
I'm sure I wouldn't like it. But from an objective point of view, it would also depend on her age, maturity, and willingness. If she was a very mature 16, unless she was being deceived or coerced somehow, I think that would be between me and my daughter, My grandmother got married and had a child by age 16. It was normal back then. My other grandmother married a man 20 years older than her when she was I think 17 or 18. Younger women marrying much older men was common in many cultures including ours. It still is in some cultures. So a lot of this depends on a cultural perspective.
That may be true technically, but it certainly wasn't rape in any real sense. And to this day I would defend my boss and his wife. I was always a 100% willing participant. In fact, when push came to shove, I actually made the first move. She made it clear by her actions that she wanted to get in bed with me, But then I asked her to join me. Thinking back, I was pretty fearless for a 16 yo. That took some balls. If things had gone the other way, it would have been really bad. John had arms the size of my legs.
I agree, I'd say that illuminates a problem i have pondered for years. Mental development vs physical development. Our kids are reaching physical maturation before they are mentally capable of dealing with it in a healthy manner.
Historically, that has always been the case. And I don't know that all 16 yos are incapable of dealing with sex in a mature manner. I've learned more about sex from YouTube since divorcing, than I did in 25 years of marriage, a prior engagement, and years of active dating before that. The biggest problem now is that boys are watching all of this seriously hardcore porn and getting all the wrong ideas about what women want. One of the biggest reasons young women are willing to date men like me who are much older, is that they've given up on young men. In the words of probably a dozen women with whom I talked about this, "they all want anal". Young guys have been taught by porn to completely objectify women, sexually. They often spend many years in isolation and masturbate to porn far too much. They literally desensitize the part of the brain that causes sexual arousal and can't get it up with a real woman.
Well, practically all men use porn. And many women do now as well. I believe most young women do. But too much can cause problems. One group tried to study the effects of porn on young men. They couldn't do the study because they couldn't find a control group. They needed a group of young men who didn't use porn, for comparison. But they couldn't find any. I used to watch porn with one of the women I dated for about a year and a half. She loved it! She was really into lesbian porn. LOL! So I made a point to find porn I knew she would like. Another one would share her porn favorites with me. She was into some REALLY kinky stuff.
Which is why having sex with underage kids is a crime.....they do NOT think ahead to the consequences, they are easily lead by their testosterone which renders their brain useless. PS, I never defend child molesters...
Well, the ground just shook ! You and I agree!!! Physical development does not go hand in hand with mental development or maturity...that is why we have laws protecting children.
