Brexit Deal Agreed Between UK & EU / Can UK cope without Northern Ireland?

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  1. allegoricalfact

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    You are using the right phrase for the wrong reasons - and mmmm it is already in situ.

    If you do not know what gentrification means in connection with London --- you have no knowledge of the place at all..
     
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    I was born in Thornton Heath - Pie and mash? Huh? Horrible stuff especially the liquor - none in Fornton Heaf mate - Mirpuri Pakistani country now.

    I am not a Brit, I am British! Go and insult someone else - you tire me.
     
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    You're the one who thinks Sinagpore on the Thames is about gentrification and not tax haven you muppet.
     
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    Then I bet you love Patty Palace and Tasty Jerk and Jamrock as well as Indian food if you're really from Thornton Heath. You old fart, no one from Thornton Heath who isn't a middle aged pikey says manor you spanner.
     
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    It is. What the German Frau said is besides the point --- and The City is so anyway - she tried hard to have it, the financial sector, moved to Frankfurt didn't she?
     
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    I was born there - outside those first few days I have never lived there.

    What?
     
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    Well that's your problem.

    Probably went off to Canvey ****ing Island the way you speak and the **** you come out with.

    ****ing thinks Singapore on the Thames is about building new buildings and gentrification thinking British people don't want to be free to trade with America, piss off back to The Football Factory (2004) you knob cheese. You know nothing of London except things you've read online like London wants to remain when in truth London wants Singapore on the Thames and to hell with the EU, who do you think London is? Scotland?!
     
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    if you do not mind me asking....
    What are the 2-3 critical motivators for ordinary people who are convicted brexiteers?
     
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    Are you trying to get banned again?
    You realize that no one missed you right?
     
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    The EU isn't the world and UK can find another market to sell to and buy from.
    If London became Singapore on the Thames, this would help London in a post Brexit world.
     
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    I think Boris will eventually be able to buy the DUP off, save Harland and Wolf, give NI special economic status in the same manner as Gib and the Isle of Man, announce an amnesty for the Troubles veterans, that would be enough.
     
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    None of this will work and would be illegal, you know that quit for pro thingy, influencing a vote, in which the UK has no say.

    If the New deal gets through the UK parliament, than the UK becomes for quiet a few years a lousy industrial point of operation concerning the EU. Ireland and maybe NI have a good chance to take the UK's place and they will need foreign workers.
    The UK's bargaining chips are rather bad and European countries are tired of it.
    It was a fast and easy vote in the council for the new deal. Than the real work started.
     
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    I believe the intent is for an Indyref 2 next year and I will say Nicola is making a very good case for Independence.
    Polls have been showing a majority in favour of a United Ireland if Brexit happens and a larger majority if No Deal. This includes Unionists voting for a United Ireland. The one place polls are still voting to stay in the UK is with No Brexit. This situation obviously makes the possibility of hard unionist violence strong. The UK had found a solution which suited both sides. Very silly to throw this away so that Hedge funds can make a big profit.

    sorry? It is the hard Brexiters who are trying to create a situation where England is alone in the world surviving only as a satellite of the US - and if they create problems in N Ireland that lifeboat will be gone.

    You are confusing the EU with Regan/Thatchers neo liberalism.
     
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    More Scots voted for LEAVE than voted for the SNP in the last election. When she got her referendum she also changed the voting age down to 16 years of age - and still lost the vote for independence. The SNP have become an embarrassment for Scots - plus, without doubt, if the rest of the UK had a vote on voting Scotland out of the Union it would be out faster than Sturgeon's feet hit the ground - we are so sick to death of her - She who have a larger bite of the whole of the UK's taxes and still has managed to mis-use them with her peodo mate.

    Tell that to the traitors in Parliament who are discussing the temporary deal right now.

    There is no hard nor soft brexit - there is remain or leave. The Withdrawal Act of 2017-18 protects all EU laws until or unless Parliament repeals them one by one. That Act was pass by both Houses.

    That is rather patronising. I promise you that I am not confused having lived through the horrors inflicted on us by the EU after voting Leave in both referendums.
     
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    Before we joined the EEC ( illegally) we had independent local govs - some dating back to Saxon times. There was no central gov institutional presence in local gov. All monies collected by said municipalities was ploughed back into the project which supplied, at one time, absolutely everything to the peoples within its area from transport - schools + school meals - hospitals, police, firemen, libraries, housing, sewerage, utilities, ect ect ect - They are now a mere facade - the EU set up Regions from which they plan for us - all services, via Directives, must be put out for tender so that local monies collected now go into private pockets leaving the people bereft.

    Our fisheries are plundered by EU trawlers, waters we ourselves may not fish --- our abattoirs were deemed illegal when we first joined so that animals for slaughter had to be taken live to Europe - this live animal transport is still happening. Our farmers are told what they may or may not farm. There are 84 thousand EU Regulations on our Statute, protecting EU fav companies, making starting any new business almost impossible.

    Blair dismissed our Law Lords ten years ago and replaced them with a Supreme Court which does not represent us but the EU.

    That is just a taste of why we hate the EU Empire -
     
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    Boris will ask for extension tonight.
    No-deal Brexit dead in the water...again.
     
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    I wish the EU would say "NO, enough already, just get the F out. No more postponing.". :bored:
     
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    I wish Jennifer Laurence would knock on my door holding a six-pack and four cheese pizza.
     
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    "Gentlemen, Britain is an island". Can't remember who said it. :grin:
     
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    Derry Walls and no surrender!!!Time to fire up Roarin Meg!!!!
     
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    Actually it is around 4400 islands (half-acre or more) and 210 inhabited islands.
     
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    It's not to be taken literally. Figure of speech, you know. ;)
     
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    Isnt H and W bancrupt now?
     
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    He sent the letter but did not sign it - saying that it is not from him but from Parliament and that he thinks further delay unbeneficial for all concerned.

    Tusk is waiting to see what happens on Monday. Macron and Junker have stated that no extension will be granted.

    I smell a no-deal if Parliament do not vote for Boris's next week.
     
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    They will 1) By Art 50 there has to be a good reason given by Gov for a delay - 2) They, as are we all, sick to death of it.

    Or they will delay their response until November - after Brexit Day.

    The Benn Act is so flawed - by our laws, ie the Act mentions only May's deal which no longer exists, by EU law in Art 50 and because cohesion is involved by the Vienna Convention on laws of Treaty Art 51. Never mind all of the conventions and constitutional laws broken.
     

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