Brexit Deal Agreed Between UK & EU / Can UK cope without Northern Ireland?

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  1. allegoricalfact

    allegoricalfact Well-Known Member

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    I beg your pardon? I am what?

    Never ever am I false - now go and take a cold shower or something - instead of insulting honest people over a bloody poll! The polls said the same before the referendum and look what happen there!
     
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    Not in armored cars they didn't
     
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    What is the realistic tariff in EU? If it’s 10%-15% he can get by a few months till U.K.-EU negotiate free trade agreement.
    You are dramatizing things that are not really that big of a deal.
    I had to fill out a few customs documents back in the day and they are pretty straight forward. If he is a fitness coach and he is that popular his clients would absorb 10% increase in his services. Weren’t you bragging about how rich you all are? What’s an extra 10% to you?
     
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    Same polls that projected vote remain the last time?
     
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    I am sorry but what you say about digital control to enact 'leave' won't be possible because of the Geography of the Irish border, and enforcement to deal with transgressions will cause conflict that has a high risk of escalating.
    You rightly recognise that what you and others seek to establish is to say the least vague. Indeed you use the term 'until that' and hope that others 'will work it out'.
    It hasn't been worked out over the last three and a quarter years when many are crying out for a workable solution. The reason is that brexiters won't bite the bullet and renege on the International Treaty that is the Belfast/Good Friday Agreement and establish the hard border that makes 'leave' a reality.
    Brexit is betrayed by brexiters because they can't work out how to leave when joined by a land border. Indeed Boris Johnson proposes the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland solves the problem by getting rid of Northern Ireland. Therefore no brexit for the whole of the UK.
     
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    I know - vehicles I said. I saw a tiny tank. Not enough to fight a war but it scared off the EUers.
     
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    Rubbish
     
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    Here - here are your darlings defacing our Queen with Police protection

     
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    I meant Farage is in the EU Parliament and if he convinces more MEP's that a Brexit delay will only prolonging the agony. It may mean that any extension is denied by the voting members rather than by a Junker/ Tusk decree.
     
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    An interesting fact tells who voted Bo Joe in for PM
    Is an estimate used by the Conservative think tank the Bow Group, in a press release published in October. A previous press release in July stated that the average age was 68.
    Other sources’ estimates from 2017 have put the figure at 57 and 71. Previous reports have put the figure at 66 and 54 in 2015, 68 and 59 in 2013, 55 in 2009, and 62 in the 1990s.

    I’m convinced that the only way that will get us out of this mess is to put it back to the people. The government and parliament after three years has proved it’s unable of reaching any decision. How much longer can we watch as all parties chase their own tails?
    Bo Joe’s votes he’s put to Parliament---8--- Won---None. He’ll soon be looking for a job. How’s the pole dancing coming along Boris?
     
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    Parliament have nothing to say about it. All Parliament does is block vote on legislation drafted by the Commission.

    The letter was meant for The Council - The Council is made up of Heads of State from all member states any of whom can veto an extension still - there will be no more vetoes allowed after next year though - Lisbon Treaty.
     
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    Boris was voted in by members of the Conservative Party - 160,00 at the time. Do you mean how he was selected?

    You are wrong. We voted and are still waiting for the promise of every single MP in Parliament to implement our choice and Leave the EU! No Parties are chasing their tails -- where have you been? Mars? Brexit crosses Party lines.

    Ummmmm he is trapped with a minority Gov because Parliament will not allow us an Election - because of the Fixed Term Act Parliament can and have denied Boris a General Election. Bercow has broken the constitution and conventions by handing the Gov's Order Paper over to the opposition so Remoaner opposition now chose which laws to bring forward --- they are making it up as they go destroying centuries of peaceful coexistence as they go. If you want a second referendum asking remain? or remain? then you want a civil bloody war!
     
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    That vote will be done in the council of 27 and not the parliament.
    Just for your information.
     
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    Have you realised this?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/barriste...oHS2l6dGilSHofH2IvoA5hlL-TZV18inWrze-OUBIKlz0

    All Gov sites are now about preparations for a no-deal Brexit - I haven't bought the Champas yet but ------------ mmmm I don't actually think Remoaners have any cards left but not in the clear yet :)
     
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    Well yes. The EU countries, 27, have taken a no deal Brexit possibility very serious.
    They have prepared for it since beginning of the year. The more the political situation in the UK became screwed up, the more serious they became.
    I am surprised that you found out about it so late.

    Is the UK prepared ?
     
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    Huh? I was talking about Letwin's sneaky amendment on Saturday trying to force Govs hand into bringing back May's deal by mistake but yeh it is getting very complicated and subtle :)

    Of course we always knew about a no-deal threat. Many of us actually want a no-deal - May wanted to keep us in the EU so never played the Ace. Boris still is holding it up high -

    Are we ready? Lol In the bleedin' winter too!

    https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/how-to-prepare-if-the-uk-leaves-the-eu-with-no-deal
     
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    Ok,Ok, you mean UK government sides.
    Is there still a government left ?
     
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    It's not the City of London, that's already a de facto city state and has been since William failed to take the city during his invasion. It's the capital that wants out (probably taking the city with it) and along with losing NI and Scotland that would basically be the end. England without London and the Union dissolved would be like the Eastern Bloc nations in the 90s.
     
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    I dont need a fitness coach. But thats not the point. You know as much as i do, that when your stuff costs 10% more than similar stuff from others, that you lose that business.
     
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    That’s only valid when your business is appealing to the lowest common denominator - price.
    I bet companies like Apple, Microsoft or Boeing would easily survive a 10% tariff. If you make value and not just cheapest crap then you will be fine.
     
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    Well I'm not against Independence for London since I remember whenever this issue came up in the 90's, they said we'd get 24 hour gyms or something.
    I say, make the M25 the border and to Hell with the rest of England sometimes.
    I still think The City itself wants to become Singapore on the Thames, maybe Canary Wharf too; gotta keep HSBC and Mastercard offices in London right...
     
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    Boeing currently goes down the toilet, so bad example. Also comparing apple to the private business of a 23 year old is laughable.
     
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    Why couldn't that fitness instructor who's had since 2016 to prepare for Brexit, prepare for Brexit?
    It's not like they haven't had time to restructure to survive a no deal Brexit. This is poor management on their part since Britain leaving the EU isn't a surprise; It's their business, it's up to them to adapt and any business who depends on UK being in the EU and hasn't changed that to survive Brexit and still depends on UK being in the EU, deserves to fail - since they've had 3 years now to prepare but haven't.
     
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    How can you prepare to lose 60% customers?
     
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    I bet he won’t lose 60%. You are just dramatizing things.
     

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