Pedophile Stabbed to Death in British Prison

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All pedophiles in US jails are killed by other inmates. It's the one crime they can't tolerate. It's not surprising that Jeffrey Epstein was killed, it's just surprising that they didn't protect him before the trial. After the trial, he would have been a dead man walking.
     
  2. Injeun

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    I don't see justice in one prisoner murdering another because he is a pedophile. I think it's just an excuse to kill because they like doing it.
     
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    Not talking about that guy ... the discussion is about all the other folks that get raped and/or brutalized in our Jails.
     
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    There's some truth to that. Then again, we are all the masters of our own conclusions, reactions, oaths and so forth. No one can do it for you. So for the most part, we are each responsible for what or who we become.
     
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    Didn't they ban the carrying of knives in the UK, especially convicted felons while in jail.? :roflol:
     
  6. Kal'Stang

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    I see where you're going. I don't quite agree with you. But I don't disagree with you either. Our system is based on punishment and punishment only. Due to that our penal system doesn't care about what to do with prisoners. They only care about making sure that the criminals serve their time. I agree we need a system that needs to be about reformation and rehabilitation. However we also have to recognize that not everyone can be reformed and rehabilitated. Some people are just pure evil.
     
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    So what is your argument then ?- we should not care about the violation of the Rule of Law - "punishment should fit crime" - and when some ghoul that we created comes out of prison and does bad stuff - pretend that we didn't create a monster because "we are all masters of our own actions"

    Perhaps you misunderstood the argument I was making. How about we stop violating the rule of law.
     
  8. Kal'Stang

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    I think you got him confused with me? That post was Injeun's first post in this thread....
     
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    You seem to agree with everything I have said .. I made no comment the wing nuts who are beyond help - my comment is with respect to those who get thrown into our system and turned into monsters because of the horrible things that happen to them in our prison system.
     
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    You ask me a question and than give an answer yourself. lol
    And a life sentence for 50 bucks is a life sentence for 50 bucks.
     
  11. Kal'Stang

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    So it was him. Figured. And it wasn't a life sentence for 50 bucks. It was a life sentence for robbery in the first degree which required him to be armed and/or violent and prior felonies on his record. You know, the part of my post that you ignored in order to hold up your world view. Ironically you are doing the same thing that I just explained that racists do in another thread. Twist facts to hold up their world view.
     
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    Especially with the recidivism rate of pedophiles.
     
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  13. Kal'Stang

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    As long as we're not talking about the wingnuts then yeah, I agree with you. Have since the beginning when I said this: "Pretty sure that no one wishes a pot smoker to be raped in jail or prison.". ;)
     
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    The guy got pardoned because giving a life sentence over that, is just insane. That you do not get this, seems to be on par of accusing me to think like a racist out of nowhere. There is something wrong with you. Obviously.
     
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    He wasn't pardoned. He was re-sentenced based on the new laws that are now in effect in Alabama.
     
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    Ah... nitpicking around. Oh sorry. It's still remains that his sentence is insane, and people were totally prepared to pay for it. And you associating me of thinking like a racist out of the blue, shows how something is really wrong in your mind.
     
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    And I think UK taxpayers were being cheated out of their money by having to take care of him for his entire life. Maybe they don't think so, but I do.
     
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    The UK taxpayer wasn't cheated out of their money. They arranged this sentence and were willing to pay for it.
     
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    Fine. Then they were wasting their money, in my opinion. Maybe not in their opinion, but that's my opinion.
     
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    /care
     
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    what was he a teacher or a preacher? lot of children effected per that (as many as 200 children), must have had lots of access to children

    while I do not support murder of this man, I won't shed a tear either....
     
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    It's not nit picking. Its what exactly happened. Judges can't pardon. Governors and the President can. But not judges. And sentences get changed all the time. Has nothing to do with whether the previous law was "insane" or not. Just has to do with changes in law.

    And yes, I did associate your thinking with that of racists. Being able to only see parts that fit your world view is what racists do. Why? Because they're closed minded. But hey, at least you're not a racist. You might be closed minded, but you're not a racist from what I can see. That still puts you 10 steps ahead of them. Just need to work on having an open mind.
     
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    Persons who have been convicted of sexual crimes are kept separated from the main prison population BUT with the change in rape laws, putting the accused in the position of having to prove their innocence, as opposed to the state having to prove their guilt, there have been about 10 thousand convictions on 'her word' alone - therefore there are at any given time a number of innocent persons in the nonces wing - apart from the borderline cases of statutory rape with consent and such like.
     
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    The worse is that if a kid is unlucky enough to be caught smoking pot, something that they all do, and he goes to jail, he will come out a criminal. Marijuana should have been legalized years ago. It would have ended a lot of our problems.
     
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    It's rather closed minded to think stealing 50 bucks is worth a life sentence without parole.
    And you're defending such garbage laws, by viewing it as if it's not insane by using quote marks and that it's just some fluke law change.
     

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