So Katie Hill used her influence to sleep with her staffers. Had extramarital sex.

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  1. HonestJoe

    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The claims and allegations about her relationships appear to be well reported but you seem to be taking the accusations further than the general reporting I found states. That is why you’re being asked to provide supporting links. I’ve not seen anything specifically stating that she used her influence to make anyone do anything they didn’t want to nor anything specific about inappropriately sharing confidential information and it’s those assertions you need to clarify.

    I also still think you should acknowledge that bringing up Weinstein in your OP was entirely unnecessary and inappropriate.
     
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    "So Katie Hill used her influence to sleep with her staffers. Had extramarital sex."

    Abuse?
    According to google, her staffer (singular) was distraught when Katie ended the affair … which included three-ways with Katie's husband
     
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    carlberky Active Member

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    What Law did she break?
     
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    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    If it's an important issue, you would have link to a story or a citation. I dismiss these kinds of innuendo posts out of hand and without a link, and an innuendo story is all what the OP post represents. .
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There was nothing wrong with Clinton Lying to Congress. The Bad thing was the violation of the rule of law and rules of Justice by the prosecution being allowed to ask irrelevant questions in an effort to publicly smear someone.
     
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    Our PRESIDENT has slept with other women while married to all three of his wives,I guess we better get him the hell out of his position ASAP!!!!
     
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    "There was nothing wrong with Clinton Lying to Congress".

    It's called perjury and is against the law.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1) Define Perjury - be sure to include the fact that not all lying is perjury into the definition - and tell us why this type of lying was perjury ?
    2) It is logical fallacy to suggest that because something is "against the law" it is necessarily right or wrong. Was it wrong for those hiding Jewish Prisoners to lie to the Gestapo ?

    Stepping down from Godwin's law comparisons .. we have plenty of Bad Law on the books .. and the real violation that was going on was the violation of Clinton's essential liberties ..and the rule of law.

    So answer (1) - state what your definition of perjury is and how Clinton fits that definition.

    and then explain to me how - the number of inches of cigar - that Slick Willie inserted into Monica's oval orifice - was relevant to white water.
     
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    Who cares about history with Clinton when you have the current White House resident having slept with many women while married to all three of his various wives.Don't you wonder how he writes those $150,000 payoffs to his hookers off on his taxes???Maybe he makes them charitable contributions????
     
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    "Define Perjury" I'll let Merriam-Webster define it. Sorry if it's not YOUR sourse.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/perjury
    the voluntary violation of an oath or vow either by swearing to what is untrue or by omission to do what has been promised under oath : false swearing

    Not only did Clinton lie but he lied to Congress. By the way, I voted for Billy twice.

    "and then explain to me how - the number of inches of cigar - that Slick Willie inserted into Monica's oval orifice - was relevant to white water."
    Absolutely no relevance ... nor her giving him oral sex. Ken Starr was about to shutdown the investigation when Tripp showed up. Source is his book.
    Now you explain to me why my one line answer, "It's called perjury and is against the law.", correcting somebody's error, called for your tirade filled with a bunch of "stuff" not related to my post.
     
  11. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    All I'm saying is treat everyone equally. No discrimination. Trump has already been looked into. So should this woman.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your definition of perjury is a general definition - Perjury rules are different from country to country - and your definition omits the fact that not all lying is perjury.

    https://www.justia.com/criminal/offenses/white-collar-crimes/perjury/

    So your claim that all lying under oath is perjury - is false.

    As you state - the questions pertaining to Monica had no relevance to Whitewater. Therefor .. it was not perjury.
     
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    Clintons perjury was in his sworn deposition for the Paula Jones trial when he said he did not have sexual relations with Lewinsky which they knew was not true because Linda Tripp had already filled in Jones's legal team.The judge threw the Jones case out as Jones legal team did not prove any material harm to her.Ken Starr the special prosecutor used Clintons proven lies to bring impeachment charges against him,Clinton won the impeachment trial in the Senate.Cost to U.S.Taxpayeers over $70 Million.
     
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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    Not only that. But it was such a big deal that he lied to the American people about his behavior on the job. If the tax payers knew this Hill woman was doing all this hot mess would they have voted her in? Such instability morally. That's the standard everyone used for Clinton and Trump. Clinton was proven. Trumps was alleged. But all the officials and the public were outraged about the extra curricular behavior.
     
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    Following in the footsteps of kamala Harris i guess.
     
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    lol, excellent!
     
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    "Perjury rules are different from country to country" As I said, Sorry if my source is not YOUR source.

    I'll stick to the definition by the most trusted name in dictionaries ... Merriam-Webster

    "So your claim that all lying under oath is perjury - is false." Rather arbitrary of you to claim that your choice is true and mine is false. Wonder how many definitions you check before you found one that suited you.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its not arbitrary at all... Your source does not contradict or refute my source so you are confused once again.

    You are also confused with respect to what a dictionary is.
     
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    Well she'd be dead wrong. If that's 'pretty', then Trump is a supermodel.

    Jesus ... and that 1990's hair, that god-awful makeup, that suburban soccer mom shirt, that cheesy grin ... yikes.
     
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    "Your source does not contradict or refute my source so you are confused once again." And that makes it false?

    "You are also confused with respect to what a dictionary is" I could look it up in my favorite lexicon … Webster, but you would probably say it's false.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1) I didn't say it was false
    2) Since you are confused with respect to what a dictionary is ... it makes no difference what one you use.
     
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    "So your claim that all lying under oath is perjury - is false." (post #61)

    When did I claim that ALL perjury was illegal? You are a nitpickerr. There. Now you can say that I'm confused about spelling.

    I may not know WHAT a dictionary IS, but I certainly know how to USE one.
     
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    Is anyone surprised to hear of yet another Dem, abusing the power they are given to take advantage of people? They are sick and twisted people
     
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    You should review your own OP. You explicitly declared that she used her influence to “sleep with staffers” (plural), that people she slept with gained access to confidential information and equated her with Harvey Weinstein, who is currently facing multiple charges of rape and sexual assault. You concluded with a definitive statement that “She has to go”. You provided absolutely nothing to back up any of those assertions.

    By no stretch of the imagination were you simply calling for equal treatment and a fair investigation. You’re no worse than your partisan political opposites in this but you’re no better either.
     
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    Your claim is false - the silly dictionary definition you give does not state that "ALL" lying under oath is perjury.

    Regardless of what your dictionary says - In the USA - not all lying under oath is perjury.

    Your claim is false - deal with it - and quit nit picking and then projecting your issues on to me.
     

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