Brexit Deal Agreed Between UK & EU / Can UK cope without Northern Ireland?

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  1. philosophical

    philosophical Well-Known Member

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    Without an ounce of democracy despite having elections for MEP's.
    An ounce!
    More utter rubbish.
     
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    You're just sour that UK doesn't care about German economic dominant EU; and why would we? Why should UK care about the EU given it's ran by Germany?
     
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    That comedian thingy refers more to people like you, who have made up their fantasy world
     
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    What have MEPs to do with democracy?
     
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    as much as the UK MPs.
     
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    Do you subtract those numbers you claim, from what the EU is selling, those 27 to 28%.
    Or does that only work on UK exports to the EU.

    You make a lot of wild claims, but for one odd reason you never have a source to back them up.
     
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    Which particular version of democracy are you referring to?
     
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    If you don't mind losing NI and Scotland, go ahead with Brexit.
     
  10. allegoricalfact

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    How dat? The EU Parliament is not the legislature - if doesn't draft nor does it pass any laws - MEPs can never legislate or Govern.

    MPs are a part of the legislature in the UK, they draft and pass laws and can be voted into Govern.
     
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    That's because he pulls the numbers out of his arse.
    Parliament's figures are probably the best source.
    https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-7851

    I'm sure Allegoricalfake will call the government treasonous liars but won't be able to find any contradicting sources of any value.
     
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    Our loss to the EU as a customer - in event of a no-deal - would be the equivalent to 19 other EU member states all leaving at once - so says the EU.

     
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    So what about your figures, those 27 to 28% and that 17%.

    Are they now out of the window ?
     
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    All that can be done in the EU to.
     
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    Oh Goody!! At last the French will forgive the march of Jack Boots. Really? They haven’t got over Agincourt yet.
     
  16. allegoricalfact

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    Now you are babbling.

    I'm not interacting with any more nasties after this post.
     
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    Oddly it was the French who didn't want us to join in the first place and it is quite conceivable that it will be the French who let us out.
     
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    Ironic that some people in Scotland want to remain in the EU and leave the UK and some people in Northern Ireland want to Brexit with the rest of the UK; if only they could swap places right?
     
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    No, they have agreed but now Parliament has finally got to study the details of the deal and what it means, doubts on the deal are becoming more relevant.
     
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    Hmmmmmmm, if people provide you with facts, or a different view, they are babbling and nasties.
    Interesting.
     
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    Charles was right
     
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    But Bercow said NO today and it is possible that Boris will now pull it for discussion tomorrow and simply jump to the legislation later in the week.

    The agreement has 160 shoulds within the wording - the agreement is a transitional agreement/treaty it is not an immovable/forever binding treaty written in stone.

    The House has had three and a half years to read it - the differences in it from May's 'never never' Deal and Boris's transition to freedom in 12 -18 months Deal are but a few pages. NI has in it the best of both worlds - their economy will boom - but they are cross about something ???? internal Irish politics = Sinn Fein. I have been listening to the NIish - what I hear being said is that that religion is no longer the reason people vote for A or B - and that the DUP should, itself change, and concentrate on what is best for Ireland, no longer the divide - that Republicans and Loyalists would both vote for them if they did. I dunno but the DUP changed its mind over night - for reasons that are not really being voiced honestly - cos no way is it about form filling? Not after 45 years in the form filing madness of the EU!

    The Treaty has been negotiated by the executive, as is right - Parliament are now trying to think up ways to change it - Saturday they even tried to trick Parliament into voting in May's deal with Letwin's amendment - If Parliament is allowed via Bercow to amend a treaty agreed with a foreign power - Gov would have to go back to Brussels - Nah ----- we are 9 days away from the 31st Parliament will be given the chance to vote - yes or no - if yes fine - if no then unless the EU refuse an extension we wait a little longer for our Brexit and our sweet revenge on the Remoaner MPs.
     
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    I have been studying EU, and other, law on an academic level for four years - as well as having lived nr Brussels and here at home from the moment we entered it.

    I am not here to have idiotic conversations with people who are rude and clueless but pretend knowledge.

    So why am I writing to you!!!! :rolleyes:
     
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    Boris Johnson sending multiple letters including one unsigned and one signed that contradicts the unsigned one is a legal loop hole to the Benn Act?
    The courts (in Scotland) shall ask this this week, and this is more time and money down the drain funneled into the pockets of the court and it's bar associations legislative on the clock charging probably the tax payer's dime while MP's have to sit but the Speaker won't allow Parliament to vote until the court rules on the Prime Minister's loop hole to the Benn Act.
    Who's paying for this case to go to court in the first place?
     
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  25. gnoib

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    A very good question.

    Why are you?
    4 years, now I am impressed, that long ?
    The Sun University ? or college?

    Why are you avoiding to put meat on the so called facts you spout.
    17%, and all the other percentage you mentioned.

    Come on Lady, get moving.
     
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    Keep telling yourself that.
     

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