Hillary Clinton attacks Tulsi Gabbard "Russian 3rd Party Candidate"

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  1. struth

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    None of that happened here...are you referring to when Obama said he left a free and stable Iraq?
     
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    Bush is the one who left Iraq.

    He signed a deal with Iraq that specified the date, that relinquished all rights to idepenent combat aneuvers, identified the equipement that would be left and what we would remove, that specified when it would be removd and identified the charges for left equipment and for removal.

    That was the final SOFA of the last December of the Bush administration.

    After transfer to Obama, Iraq stated in no uncertain terms that it had NO willingnes to further negotiate on our departure. In fact, their parliament would have had to agree, and they also said there was NO CHANCE.

    And, that makes total sense from multiple stand points. Iraq was embracing Iran. And, they were embarking on a civil war that the USA would NOT have supported.

    So sorry your "Obama did it" is just total nonsense.
     
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    Revisionism.

    The buck stopped with Obama, he was the CiC.

    The chump even bragged that he was leaving behind a more peaceful Iraq when in reality he just handed it to ISIS.
     
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    LOL.

    Yes, Bolton would probably have had us go back and reconquer Iraq!!

    I hope you're smarter than that.

    ISIS was created during the Bush administration as an outfall of his decision to conquer Iraq - without even so much as a legitimate justification.
     
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    ISIS became a defacto state after Obama pulled out.

    He then spent years mocking ISIS and then went back in.

    He was always shortsighted and Islamic terror flourished on his watch.
     
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    He left a free and safe Iraq and Obama wouldn’t work out another deal, bush gave us the Arab spring, which Obama failed. Facts
     
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    In Iraq, that's due to Bush and the Iraq government demanding that we leave. Obama didn't reconquer Iraq.

    In Syria, our congress was adamantly opposed to action inside Syria. So, we used drones and had some amount of presence, but nobody - Dems, Republicans, our military, our state department ... nobody - proposed a plan that would have made more difference against ISIS in Syria.

    Now, we have Trump, popping off ideas that have both US and Kurdish allies running for their lives - without even telling our own military what was going to happen!!
     
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    "Wouldn't"???

    Obama approached a new deal almost immediately. Iraq stated clearly that there was absolutely NO possibility.

    AND, we know EXACTLY why.

    So, get a life.
     
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    Right on Brother! By the way, Putin told me to tell you that we're doing such good work on his behalf! Extra Rubles for both of us!
     
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    Tulsi is opposed to stupid wars and militarism, so she would never be welcome in the Republican party.
     
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    Obama was CiC, he was in charge, and he made the decision. Blaming it on his predecessor was something he was known to do-and just another sign of what a weak leader he was.

    The Peshmerga and other Kurds are still our ally-its the communist terrorists Kurds that Turkey is going after and with good reason.

    Bottom line is Trump is cleaning up the mess that Obama never could.
     
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    Ron and Rand Paul?
     
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    It's not a matter of blame or weak. It's of reading the document and the FACT that Bush signed it.

    And, as for going back into Iraq, sorry. We don't get to just go conquer countries for the halibut.

    What the HELL makes you think we can just conquer countries without cause?


    We don't have allies there. We have people who ran for their lives, because Trump waved Turkey in to begin the slaughter.

    We have people who WERE our allies and who are now forced to look to Syria, Russia and Iran for support.

    Running away while releasing ISIS is NOT "cleaning up".

    The ramifications cross all the way to Israel. And, Trump did that without even talking to our MILITARY!
     
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    Trump is leading instead of following like Obama.

    His message is one of peace and prosperity-not endless wars like the dems prefer.
     
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    Ron Paul was treated like dirt by the Republican party. And Rand Paul hasn't made a lot friends there either. And to the extent that Rand is better tolerated than his father, it's due to his willingness to water down his strictly non-interventionist beliefs.
     
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    Yeah, that's his message. Too bad he hasn't delivered on it.
     
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    Reds under the bed, just the modern version of McCarthyism.
     
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    What kills me about this whole thing is the fact that nobody offered any proof, yet Newsweek has an article about how bad Tulsi is for being a Russian asset without offering any proof.
    It’s like the left is on a quest to destroy its party from within.
    Hillary just threw out the credibility of Russian connection accusations against anyone out of the window.

    Do these people think at least 1 day ahead? Apparently, no!
     
  20. struth

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    Is this parody?
     
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    I think she's losing her cookies. If I were Bill, I'd move out to a safe place.

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    There are reports that she batters Bill Clinton regularly.
     
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    Is it true that Iraq demanded that the US leave?
     
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    Why would the military need to be talked to? Don't you mean the intelligence community?
     
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    Not true. She just kicks the doors off of kitchen cabinets and provides jobs for the maintenance crew.
     
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