Atheism Gets the Darwin Award!

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by ChemEngineer, Jul 27, 2019.

  1. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    I have found it useless to argue with a racist. It is much like arguing with a Fundamentalist Christian. Both have such distorted world views that rational argument is useless.
     
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    Why are you asking a poster to provide evidence for the Easter Bunny and Unicorns... they they told you that there is no proof for the Easter Bunny and Unicorns ?

    The point of the negation fallacy - is that the inability to prove something does not exist -does not prove that something does exist.

    Just because it can not be proven that God does not exist - does not prove that God exists. .. This is logical fallacy that so many religious zealots will engage in when they say "Prove God does not exist" .. as if this constitutes proof of God's existence.
     
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    One can perhaps be forgiven for thinking so; but of course we'll likely never find out one way or the other.
    I'm aware of the danger to my sanity, but they often have their uses. :wink:
    What the hell that has to do with the post you responded to, no one will ever know.
     
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    It's not an organized religious, but it is a religious belief. It's very similar to how Deism isn't technically a religion.
     
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    Actually I'm pretty sure the percentage of those conned into believing that men can be women or that capitalism has given Mommy Erf a raging fever is higher in Millennials than in Boomers. :wink:
     
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    then I guess theism gets the made from dirt award?
     
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    yep, they just don't get it

    there are atheist religions, but not all atheists are religious

    can't group all atheists in the same group or all theists

    both Muslims and Christians are theists, both believe in the same God, same Jesus, same Mary, same Moses, but are different religions
     
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    :roflol:

    The THEIST motivated blog "source" for that utterly bogus allegation has ZERO CREDIBILITY as usual!

    But hardly surprising that the OP would rely upon an unverified and self serving load of bovine excrement because there is nothing else out there to corroborate that drivel. However the data does exist to prove that the OPPOSITE is happening.

    The best part about this "source" is that it DISCREDITS ITSELF right at the top of the blog!

    http://nineteensixty-four.blogspot.com/2012/07/schisms-of-religiously-unaffiliated.html

    So the THEIST MOTIVATION is OBVIOUS enough!

    In that same BLOG it unintentionally DISCREDITS it's own findings!

    :roflol:

    For starters the data itself is from 2007 where amongst the population as a whole 16% were no longer affiliated with any religion and only 1.6% self identified as atheists.

    Compare those to CURRENT 2019 statistics where the religiously unaffiliated are now 23% (a 50% INCREASE in just 12 years) and 3.1% are atheists which is virtually DOUBLING the number over that period.

    https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/

    The GLARINGLY OBVIOUS DIFFERENCE between the utterly BOGUS allegation in the OP and the ACTUAL DATA exposes the FALLACY that atheists are losing adherents when the FACTS prove that it is religion that deserves the Darwin Award.

    :roflol:
     
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    Atheism PREDATES your Christian religion by at least half a millennia and it was founded by some of the greatest Philosophical Minds that the world has ever known.

    http://www.humanreligions.info/atheism_history.html

     
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    Either that or ALL religions are false!
     
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    and of course we all know the foundation of western standards

    [​IMG]

    except of course the atheist religions. they are ALL twu!
     
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    ironically atheists have no evidence a God does not exist, both are faith based religions.
     
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    Western civilization. A standard unfamiliar to other civilizations.
     
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    they are not the ones claiming a God exists, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
     
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    well the standard American corporate diet is spreading to other countries, so they are getting familiar, corporatism is spreading
     
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    By definition it is not. Atheism is the lack of belief in a god or gods. Just like not playing baseball isn’t a sport, lacking belief in a god is not a religion.
     
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    [neo]atheism 'by definition' is a religion. Just like water is wet! :deadhorse:

    Easy to prove too (to anyone 'not' in denial and without an agenda)
     
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    So what evidence would be sufficient for you? IF Jesus walked on water 2,000 years ago, what evidence would you expect to see today?
     
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    prove it, lol, it never happened

    Trump supporters today believe Trump's lies in the same way religious people back then believed the lies spread about people they "wanted" to believe in

    do you believe God ordered people to be killed for picking up sticks on Sunday, the Bible says so, is that proof to you that God did that?

    back in the biblical times, blasphemy got you killed, so you either believed your religious leaders or else

    I would love to read all the biblical stories that have long since been destroyed and forgotten as even religious leaders of the time would not include them in what we now call the bible

    Jesus was not even his real name, and Jesus could walk on water but not write his own book for us to read? if people really respected the man, would they call him by his real name that he went by when alive, or does that remind them too much that it's a middle eastern religion?
     
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    Neoatheist isn’t a word. Atheism by definition isn’t a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn’t a sport.
     
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    Spelling? You must mean the American corpulent diet.
     
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    FALSE,

    Agnosticism is the lack of belief in God
    , [neo] Atheism is the disbelief in any God.

    [neo]atheism 'by definition' is a religion. Just like water is wet!

    Just like spots on a leopard!
    Just like the sun is hot!
    Just like the sky is up!
    like neoatheists are in denial.
     
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    Atheism means the lack of belief in a god or gods. You of course know that perfectly well, as you’ve been given the definition over 100 times over dozens of threads. Atheism by definition is not a religion, just like not playing baseball isn’t a sport.
     

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