Trump Beats ALL Democrats / Ties Warren (General Election Poll)

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  1. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    The GDP is really no better under Trump than it was with Obama. The metric that Republicans set for being a "good" President was a GDP over 3%. They claimed Obama was a terrible President because he never broke through that 3% level. Well, guess what? Trump hasn't either. And it looks like we'll be in the mid 2% for 2019.

    Even Carter had a better GDP than both these two. Reagan was better. Clinton was better. So when you claim "full potential" I just gotta call Bull Crap.
     
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    Absolutely.
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    Job approval says nothing about how Trump will fare against specific candidates. His personal approvals were low before his 2016 election.

    We don't know what will happen a year from now, other than half the country will be disappointed.
     
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    So Pocahontas or Plugs will fix that with higher taxes and more regulation?
     
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    Those are allegations, and Bill Clinton was really convicted of Obstruction of Justice and perjury, yet wasn't removed from office by an opposing party controlled Senate.
     
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    Yup, Rep. Green said Trump had to be impeached or else he might win re-election, IOW, democracy might happen.
     
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    Unemployment now lower than any of those presidents produced.
     
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    Not really.

    "By 1994, Zogby was polling the New York State gubernatorial race for the New York Post and WNYW- Fox 5. Zogby correctly called the winner, George Pataki, the only pollster to do so.[6] Zogby's company was hired by Reuters News Agency to poll the 1996 presidential race.[7] “All hail Zogby, the maverick predictor,” wrote Richard Morin, polling director at The Washington Post, when John Zogby was the only pollster who called the 1996 presidential election with near precision.[8] Zogby achieved the same level of accuracy with his polling in the following two presidential elections.[9][10]

    In 1996, he accurately polled the presidential election and repeated his accuracy in polling in the following four presidential elections.[3] He has been featured as a live television election analyst for ABC (Australia), BBC, CBC, and NBC News as well as the Foreign Press Center in Washington since 1998.[2]

    For over a decade, Zogby led his company's political polling on behalf of Reuters,[11] NBC News,[12] CSPAN,[13] the New York Post,[14] the Atlanta Journal-Constitution,[15] the Miami Herald,[16] the Houston Chronicle,[17] the Buffalo News,[18] the Albany Times Union,[19] and numerous television stations and newspapers throughout the United States.

    Zogby has been a featured speaker for several associations including the Food Marketing Association,[20] the Texas Cattlemen's Association[21] and the Detroit Economic Club.[22] He has also been the keynote speaker at events sponsored by think tanks including the Center for Strategic and International Studies in DC,[23] Chatham House in London,[24] and the French Institute for International Relations in Paris.[25]

    His analysis has been published in the New York Times,[26][27] Wall Street Journal,[28] Financial Times,[29] and publications worldwide."[30]

    Wikipedia

    Standing by for a post that says "Wikipedia?", followed by a juvenile cartoon figure.
     
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    Hence the impeachment farce, one year before the election.
     
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    This was posted on the White House site back in February of 2019, what are your thoughts?

    ACHIEVING 3 PERCENT GROWTH: For the first time in 13 years, the economy reached 3 percent growth in 2018.

    • The Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) has announced that GDP grew by 3.1 percent from the fourth quarter of 2017 to the fourth quarter of 2018.
      • Bureau of Economic Analysis: “During 2018 (measured from the fourth quarter of 2017 to the fourth quarter of 2018), real GDP increased 3.1 percent.”
    • This marked the fastest fourth quarter to fourth quarter growth since 2005.
    • 2018 was the second year in a row that the economy exceeded market expectations.
    • The impressive economic growth in 2018 was a strong improvement from the trend prior to when President Donald J. Trump took office.
      • Had the pre-2017 trend continued, growth would have been only 2 percent in 2017 and 2018. Economic output was also $280 billion larger than it would have been.
    • Growth matched the forecast of 3.1 percent predicted in the President’s 2018 Budget.
    • The fourth quarter GDP growth last year far exceeded market expectations.
     
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    How can Trump get out of this impeachment garbage? Let the dems self destruct on their own? He shouldn't have to take this BS from them any longer.
     
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    By resigning
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    wow, you didn’t even attempt to address a single point <Rule 2> I was hopeful for a Republican that would actually look at several issues I have and address them point blank instead of all this maga fake news bullshit.
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    Probably not, seems as a country we are constantly given poor choice after poor choice.
    Almost like we have a two party system that realizes no matter what they do they will regain power in 2-6 years as the other guys piss the nation off.
    Almost like we need a new election system to allow a viable third party.
     
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    But what he actually said instead of solving the puzzle:
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    LOL. not going to happen. Keep dreaming snowflake.
     
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    BAHAHAHAHA!!! A poll trying to lead people to Warren eh?

    The same globalist media just said the Ukrainian election was going to be 52% Zelenksy and 32% Poroshenko. It ended up being Z -- 73% and P -- 24% landslide. These polls are a joke.

    Gotta love them and the narrative they try to push though!

    Basically everyone hates Warren equally. The Progressives (the real ones) like the Jimmy Dore types love Sanders and Gabbard. The Corporate/Globalist Democrats love Biden. (edit --- well, I dunon if I would say love, no body will donate to him....)

    Both of them TOLERATE Warren, but she will get crushed against Trump because nobody actually likes her all that much and she has almost an entire staff full of Clintonites.

    There is a reason there is panic in the Democratic fundraising class, they are begging for anyone new to run.
     
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    My thoughts?
    I think you got snookered by the Trump web site - again. :)
    The Commerce Department said on Friday that gross domestic product increased at a 2.9% rate last year, confirming an estimate which was published in March. The department’s annual revisions to GDP data also showed the economy growing 2.5% in the 12 months through the fourth quarter of 2018, down from the previously reported 3.0%.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-misses-trumps-3-target-in-2018-idUSKCN1UL1KP

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    At the begining, only 23% of Americans were in favour to impeach Nixon.

    52% for Trump, today.
     
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    Sorry. That was just an estimate. The real number released in late March of 2019 by the Commerce Dept, showed a revision to 2.9% GDP (the final qtr. of 2018 was revised to just 2.2% growth). And that was with a $1.5 trillion dollar tax cut which jacked the second qtr of 2018 - then it fell of the last two qtrs . 2nd qtr. of 2019 was 2.0% growth.

    All this still way below JFK, who averaged 4.2% growth. Johnson, who had an average 5.2% growth. Carter, who averaged 3.3% growth. Reagan, who averaged 3.5% growth. and Clinton, who averaged 3.8% growth.

    So again. It's Bull Crap to claim any special status for economic growth under Trump. And you have to remember that the GDP for the four qtrs. before Obama took office averaged a MINUS 2.7%, while the four qtrs. prior to Trump taking office averaged a PLUS 2.0%.

    Just say'n. Trump really ain't that special. Even Carter had better numbers.
     
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    No its actually just demonstrating that Trump is pretty much on the money when it comes to the economy. Maybe a couple percentage points down but damn is estimate was pretty close to what have seen and what we will see in the future.
     
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    The Unemployment rate when Obama left office was 4.8% and 8% on his first day. Unemployment was 5.4% when Reagan left office. Trump was handed a silver spoon when it comes to unemployment.
     
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    The U.S. Gross Domestic Product (GDP) grew at or above 3 percent for two quarters in a row for the first time in three years.

    • 2017 third quarter GDP grew 3.2 percent.
    • 2017 second quarter GDP grew 3.1 percent.
    Actually what Trump has done for the economic success of America is downright incredible. Once he reversed all of the suppression techniques put in place by Barack Obama, the economy surged forward. Taxes are down. Unemployment across the board at record lows.

    Wage growth increased at 3.2% year over year in August, wages have now been growing at 3% or higher for 13 months in a row.

    The unemployment rate for Hispanic Americans hit a record low in August.

    The unemployment rate for African Americans hit a record low in August, and the disparity between unemployment rates for whites and African American’s has never been smaller.

    Under President Trump more Americans are employed than ever before, the total number of employed Americans “surged” by 590,000 to a record 157.9 million in August.

    Thanks to a robust job market, American consumers’ assessment of the economy reached its highest level in 19 years.

    The US and EU announced a trade deal in which the EU will accept a high number of American beef exports, fulfilling President Trump’s promise to fight for freer and fairer trade for all Americans.

    Economic confidence rebounded to record highs under President Trump because his pro-growth policies have and continue to put American workers and businesses first.

    • The Conference Board Consumer Confidence Index rose in November 2017 to a 17-year high of 129.5.
    • The National Association of Manufacturers’ Outlook Index had the highest annual average in its history.
    • Small business optimism has sustained record-high levels under President Trump according to the National Federation of Independent Business.
    Since taking office, President Trump has advanced free, fair and reciprocal trade deals that protect American workers, ending decades of destructive trade policies.

    • Days after taking office, the President withdrew the United States from the Trans-Pacific Partnership negotiations and agreement.
    • President Trump's Administration is working to defend American intellectual property from China's unfair practices through a range of actions.
    • The President improved the KORUS trade agreement with the Republic of Korea, which will allow more U.S. automobile exports to South Korea with lower tariffs and increase U.S. pharmaceutical access to South Korea.
    • American agriculture has gained access to new markets under President Trump.
    President Trump is unleashing economic growth and jobs. During his first year, nearly 3 million new jobs were created since January 2017 and the unemployment rate fell to 3.8 percent, the first time below 4% in 18 years.

    • The manufacturing industry created over 300,000 jobs.
    • 337,000 construction jobs have been created since President Trump took office, and construction employment stands at its highest level since June 2008.
    • Fourteen states reached record low unemployment rates.
    • The African American unemployment rate reached its lowest ever recorded.
    • Job openings have reached 6.6 million, the highest level recorded. This competition should drive wage growth.
    • Jobless claims reached the lowest level in 45 years (1973).
    • The number of people dependent on food stamps has fallen by 2.6 million or 6.2% since January 2017.
    • The number of people receiving unemployment benefits is running at the lowest level in 45 years.
    • Average 3% growth the last three quarters- under President Obama, annual growth averaged 1.9%.


    Full source is here:
    https://www.promiseskept.com/achievement/overview/economy-and-jobs/
     
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    Your a trip. :)
    Did you notice that Obama 2.9% year? :grin:

    PS.
    Have you learned to double check Trumps web site yet?
     
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    Hello fellow economist!!

    We can use more of you around here, welcome aboard.
     

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