Abortionists killing babes after birth? Infanticide okay?

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  1. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    Oh and how I miss that little adorable son I would have had if I had sex the day before. I am sure he would be curing cancer now.
     
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    Renee Well-Known Member

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    I don’t know any women here who feel that they should not use birth control. But then on the other hand I don’t hear Men saying that men should use birth control.I think that is a given that when two people have sex and don’t want children ideally they should use birth control. But sometimes they make mistakes. From what it sounds like it is you who wants to impinge on a woman sex life because you make it sound like birth-control should only be the woman’s responsibility
     
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    How does sex with consequences correlate to so called authoritarian men?

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    You find it ironic that only people who support abortion are still alive?That’s not true I heard there is going to be a demonstration of embryos in front of the capital.
    I guess you just have to accept that something that is 1/10 of 1 ounce, which is when most abortions are done,is not a person. It has no neural connections therefore it should be hard for you to personify it it , it doesn’t think or feel.And try to be mature enough to accept the fact that Republican women as well as Democratic women, conservative women as well as liberal women, black women as well as white women, single women as well as married women get abortions so stop making it a political thing . It makes you sound foolish and uneducated ...just the way trump wants you
     
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    she’s right....righties care more about zygotes that never develop , than born children
     
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    You know we live in a world of rules and laws, yet we have the most free nation on earth. There is nothing oppressive about educating women on the potential consequence of sex. Just like educating drug addicts on the potential risks of sharing needles. And you can still have sex all you want, just know you could have a baby to take care of if your not careful. Stop trying to teach women there is no consequence to having sex. Because this is an outright lie.

    Sodomy is still illegal in many nations. So it's not without precedent.

    What gives you the right to take a future away from an unborn child?

    Are you grateful you were not aborted? Happy to be alive?

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    Just echoing the response I got from you guys when I posted a legitimate picture of an unborn baby earlier in the thread.
     
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    Neither of these are "fake" fetuses (the picture on the snopes site is clearly not even close to the likeness)
    Noah Alexander (look him up if you dont believe me)
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    why dont you post a picture of this so called resin doll and we can settle this once and for all. Let the people decide, not you or me.

    We're either persons or property. I have to assume you abortionist enthusiasts view the unborn baby as a piece of property?

    At 12 weeks’ gestation, that death sentence would have typically come in the form of a suction abortion, in which the preborn baby and placenta are sucked out of the uterus, torn apart by pressure 29 times stronger than a household vacuum. The abortionist then goes through the contents of the container, piecing the tiny person back together to ensure all of his or her body parts are accounted for.

    It isn’t simply “contents of the uterus” being removed – it is a preborn human, who has reflexes and a beating heart. A human being who only needed more time to grow, along with the love and care of a family. Noah’s short life proves this, and his life will likely save many others his age from abortion.

    “If [Noah] could help show one mother considering abortion the beauty of her child,” Noah’s mother said. “Then our loss would be worth it.”
     
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    You fail to comprehend the truth value of a human life - that far exceeds any animal, no matter how rare. The soul of a man is priceless. What gives you the right to take away a childs future?
    Its a sad commentary when pre-born eagles, are of greater value to society than pre-born humans. And I dont mean we should go around destroying eagle eggs. But no, it's the mindset of the preservation of life that we should be after here. You need to take the same framework you build around that eagles nest and place it across the mothers womb. Do you understand how many people had to die throughout history to preserve our freedoms? Our freedoms like liberty and justice? And free speech, and our bill of rights. Like the 14th amendment? And freedom of religion? These values have been under attack for generations. We've gone to war - two world wars - and waged many other battles to preserve our freedoms and hand them off to the next generation, knowing they will be safe and protected. When you abort a child this runs contrary to every principle known to a just and upright society. You are spitting in the face of all those who fought to protect your way of life. That is why, Trump, combined with a number of conservative judges will be rolling back Roe v Wade and dismantling the abortion component of Planned Parenthood in the coming years. You can really start saying good bye to abortion because we are NOT a society that holds the baby accountable for the mothers actions. That is called blame shifting and it's something Margaret Sanger and the majority of the left very much embrace.

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    This survey was conducted by the Center for Gender Equality, run by former Planned Parenthood President Faye Wattleton. Its 2003 nationwide survey of women revealed that a majority of women (51%) believe abortion should either never be permitted or permitted only for rape, incest, or life endangerment. That means a majority of women believe abortion should be permitted only in extremely rare circumstances. (Rape/incest abortions ac-count for only 1% of abortions every year according to the Guttmacher Institute, and life-saving abortions are similarly rare.) What's more, when asked to rank the top priorities for the women's movement, the women ranked "Keeping abortion legal" next to last, just before "More girls in sports."
     
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    What are you even talking about? Now you are really going into liberal la la land.
     
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    The only nerve you hit is in the spine of an aborted baby killed with scissors.
     
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    It wasn't I who brought up sex.

    Care to comment on the topic or don't you have anything :)
     
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    EVEN IF WE HAVE TO PUT THEM IN DOG KENNELS...and cut funding for entities that aid CHILDREN like Welfare, WIC, SNAP....
     
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    Well that just backfired in your face...

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    How does having a child compromise a womans right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness?
     
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    Anti-Choicers view women as nothing but property, breeding animals to do as Anti-Choicers bid.


    The woman who is pregnant owns her body, the ZEF is part of that body so YES, it is hers.

    Anti-Choicers want women to lose the right to their own bodies( while Anti-Choicers KEEP theirs , of course ;)

    None of that emotional Hallmark movie of the week CRAP changes the FACT that women have the same basic human right everyone else has, the right to their own body.

    A basic human right that Anti-Choicers want destroyed .
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    From this post : """It's about a moral code of conduct that should be instilled in the very marrow of society.""
    LOL! Just what I think of when I think " Justin Bieber"
    I wonder why you value celebrities over more worthwhile people???


    No, it didn't.....but if Bieber is your new god and the one who rules your moral compass have at it.....:) You'll have to fight off 13 year old girls though :) :)


    Funny, I thought righties hated all those godless celebrities....;)


    Unanswered question (one of many ):

    I wonder why you value celebrities over more worthwhile people???
     
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    YES! SO TRUE! :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Anti-Choicers believe in Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness for themselves but not for women.




    It doesn't and no one ever said it did.

    Been visiting Imagination Land again?



    Having the right to her own body taken away destroys her right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.
     
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    There is if men aren't also "educated".


    There is if it's forced.

    There is if rights are taken away from BORN humans.





    Women are not children who know nothing about sex. And they certainly don't need YOU to tell them.

    Women know their is a consequence to having sex and having sex is not against the law....they shouldn't be punished for it by having their right to their own body taken away and be FORCED to gestate.



    What gives YOU the right to decide what rights BORN people have?

    ...and yet so many pregnancies end in miscarriages ...hmmmm...
     
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    The only image I remarked on was your attempt to post an example that is rare and typically illegal — likely done in the case of danger to the mother — and compare that to the bulk of abortions that are done in the first 8 weeks — usually with a pill.

    Intellectually dishonest at best.

    So you were lying when you said the chart was false?
     
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    Pregnancy can cause work to be missed decreasing revenue and the chance at promotions, it can cause outright termination, childcare costs, personal relationships to deteriorate, she could be kicked out of the family depending on religious preferences... would you like me to continue?

    Why do you feel the need to punish a woman and a child for 18+ years because of half an hour (if shes lucky)?
     
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    So the opposite is true with lefties then. Lefties care more about children that are already born than fetuses. Then again there is evidence of infanticide, so apparently lefties use the argument "its closer to a fetus" than it is to a mature human. So apparently, it's not only the unborn at risk here.

    Of course, but if you kill the babies you intend to protect later in life, Your entire argument goes in the toilet. Like a dead baby. Sanctity of life fail!

    Thanks to abortion, we have lost out big time. For example:

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    You've been sold a neatly packaged lie. And you are all very, very deceived.
     
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    Why so much blind vile hatred, oozing out of your soul into every post?

    Try to resist the lure of how good the hatred makes you feel. That's Satan tempting you there.
     
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    I agree. Sex education should be required in all schools. I taught sex education for 15 years in New York City schools. But unlike you I did not single out girls as having the only consequence. I explained to boys that they might be responsible for an unwanted child for 18 years as well.
    But once again your extremism comes into play where you assumeThat women are so stupid that they don’t know they can get pregnant from sex. Yes, I am grateful I was not aborted. But I am a living human being. I am grateful I have my wonderful daughter and I do not miss the child that I might have had if a different sperm fertilized my egg. You seem to have a problem not being able to differentiate between a zygote and a born child.
    In my sex Ed class you can be sure I encouraged abstinence as they were only about 14 years old but I was also aware that there would be some who would be sexually active so I taught them about the importance of birth control.....And I am sure it would upset you to know that planned parenthood gave them literature to help them NOT to get pregnant.Whether you like it or not females are going to have sex and they will have the option to terminate a pregnancy and it is the males who at this point do not have any choices.
     
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