Vindman struggles to explain why he used "demand" when questioned

You mean facts such as Orangemanbad?

This crap is a hoax!

 

That's why Vindman was there. As well as other experts. And he doesn't need to remember word for word. But he will certainly remember the parts that raised a flag.

If you ever bother to turn off your wingnut media and listen to some real news, you would know all these things. The fact that you refuse, and instead rely on us on this forum to get you informed is what makes this so tiresome.

 

As colored by whatever bias he might have.

 

His bias was to do his job. His job was to report what was said on the call exactly as it was said. No "coloring".

The fact that you analyze everything using an unanalyitical partisan view doesn't mean everybody does. One of these days maybe you'll get that that won't save Trump. Because, unlike you, most people are capable of looking at reality objectively.

 

No.. its not a hoax.. and Trump can put it all to rest by releasing the actually transcript of the phone call without redactions.

 

So, you must believe that if there were a thousand O-5s listening to the phone call, they would all come with the same information. There is no reason to believe he is any more reliable than any of them.

 

The only thing that will stop these never-ending hoaxes is to vote the corruptocrats out of office, then clean out the federal agencies.

 

I think Donald Trump is a true patriot who holds love for the United States above all ese. Now what? A purple heart means you have been in combat, not that your politics rule the day or that your opinion should matter more than that of a banker or a housewife. Y can be a courageous individual and still have your political convictions questioned.

 

Trump only has what the honorable civil servants at the CIA created....sorry, you don't like or trust our intel agencies now

 

Has there been a political dispute in the last 50 years when Democrats didn't trot out a genuine military hero to give unimpeachable testimony based on his heroic military service? Even had one in a wheel chair during Dan Rathergate. Then there was the candidate "Reporting for duty". Democrats love their military heroes during political debate when those heroes aren't committing atrocious war crimes for Democrats to investigate. Republicans love them for the times Democrats hate them, when they are doing their jobs at great personal cost and responding aggressively to combat conditions. Winning those medals that Democrats find so politically shiny.

 

Trump shamed the US in his summit where he trashed US intel to Putin. That's why Amb Jon Huntsman resigned.

You simply cannot hold Trump accountable. Why not? He's an adult who campaigned for this job.

 

Um....Huntsman just resigned a couple weeks ago...on the 3rd. What summit are you talking about?

He did a great job of undoing the "more flexible" policy that Obama had established

 

Huntsman resigned last August... Sharp guy and a very skilled diplomat.

The 2018 Russia–United States summit was a summit meeting between United States President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin on July 16, 2018, in Helsinki, Finland. The Finnish Ministry for Foreign Affairs officially titled the summit as the #HELSINKI2018 Meeting and it was hosted by the President of Finland Sauli Niinistö.

During a post-summit joint press conference with Putin, Trump did not accept Russian interference was part of the 2016 U.S. elections.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Russia–United_States_summit

 

That's why it must be private, this way only the witnesses Adam Schiff approves of, are allowed. And only the choice snippets of testimony which further Adam Schiff's agenda are leaked to the public.

Once Pelosi and Schiff believe they have released enough choice snippets to propagandize the public square, then they can have their impeachment vote. An open and non partisan process, where the public can see what is being discussed, and republicans have equal power, where they can call their own witnesses, without Schiff having veto power over them, then the public will see what a farce all of this impeachment is.

 

Some need to slime Vindman, an American patriot and dedicated public servant, because he reportedly testified under oath, as to his awareness of facts that they don't want to see revealed, and they swallow their messiah's baseless characterization of this honorable man as a "Never Trumper!" - the strident whistle that sets the rabid pack loose.

Such fanaticism does not serve Trumpery well. Smearing a reliable witness (or the majority of Americans who consistently, relentlessly, disapprove of Whimpering Don, for that matter) is not a viable defense.

Substantive refutations are demanded, not hysterical revilements.

 

Likely so.

Perhaps a more important factor is that the Dems are in cahoots with Deep State actors, either on purpose or by accident.

 

Actually he left office oct 2, maybe announced it in August...either way you claimed he resigned over a summit over a year prior?

I didn’t see where trump said anything negative about our intel agencies there. Nor did he say he didn’t accept Russian interfere.

 

Even Obama said that Russia could not rig the outcome of the election. He told Putin to cut it out, and that was that.

 

Trump trashed US intelligence. Russia certainly tried to undermine confidence in US elections..

Remember that Trump claimed 5 to 6 million illegals voted and that the system was rigged against him.

 

Yes. Trump said repeatedly that he believed Putin..

 

Russia always tries to influence the election, to no avail. The dems, with this false Trump-Russia collusion conspiracy, have damaged faith in our election process more than the Russians could ever dream of. Putin is laughing his ass off, and our Democrats are his eager little puppets.

The system, as in the deep state, and the 0bama admin, was against him, this much we know.

 

Well, maybe is was people from the Ukraine, who stole the DNC and Podesta emails, and not Russia?

 

A true patriot does not denigrate every American that dares to criticize or impede your efforts.

 

He did, he was standing next to him and said he believed Putin when Putin said he didn’t have anything to do with it, not that Russia didn’t.

I mean geez, he’s not gonna turn to the guy and start pointing the finger when he was right besides him

 

Don't use his military history to try to state that he is above question or reproach. Military leadership makes a lot of mistakes doing the job they have trained for and I suspect you would be among those calling them out for them. When they step into politics they get targets on their chest just like any other politician or political operative, medal of honor or no.