Have democrats conceded the 2020 election?

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  1. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is the democrat impeachment of President Trump a concession that democrats cannot beat President Trump in the 2020 election?

    Will the democrat impeachment of President Trump persuade more voters to vote against President Trump than they can persuade to vote for a democrat?

    Will the democrat impeachment of President Trump change even one vote?

    Will the democrat impeachment of President succeed in removing him from office before he is reelected?

    OR

    Are the democrats going all in on Ukraine because, if Biden goes down, Clinton, Comey, Brennen and Clapper also go down?
    Is this last ditch effort an abandonment of the presidency altogether in an attempt to save the top dogs?
     
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    The democratic impeachment of trump is going to prompt the republicans in the Senate to show their constituents that they're blindly loyal to trump and not to their oath to uphold the Constitution. In turn, after all the evidence becomes known, they're all going to be elected out of office and trump will loose the election by a landslide.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Want to bet?
     
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    The Democrat Party effort to try to Impeachment Trump, if the Dems are even stupid enough to try that risky of a Hail Mary, will expose even more of the arrogance of the un-elected and singularly entitled bureaucratic establishment that is pervasive within the Washington, D.C. landscape.

    The Republicans are simply not going to lose the Senate in 2020, but they might just take back the House.
     
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    Let's ask Democrat Representative Al Green; shall we?

     
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    https://www.foxnews.com/media/russia-trump-clinton-halper-blumenthal
     
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    Wow! You are going to be 1 disappointed individual when it all goes down opposite from what you hope for. Do you not even consider the demoncrats track record on the "got him this time!"?
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They really seem like they're on their way to a total repeat of 2016. I thought that I'd never get to see such utter shock and disappointment again, but perhaps I was wrong about that. The meltdowns on election night were absolutely delicious. I dare not even hope for that level of entertainment ever again.
     
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    Based on what I've seen since 2016, I'd say the plan to impeach will result in more supporters holding more tightly to Trump than before the last election.

    And no, I don't think the impeachment will remove him from office. I think the intention was to get voters to see Trump as a dishonest and corrupt politician, but the opposite is more likely.

    I'm no fan of Trump, but I think the impeachment strategy will be a failure. I'm hoping I'll be just as wrong about that as I was about Trump getting elected in the first place. All of this is too divisive and will only lead to more division. That bothers me more than anything else.
     
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    To be honest, I worry about riots in the streets if Trump wins (which I am confident he will). Sad that the left would go to these extremes; hope I am wrong.
     
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    So are their constitutents for the most part. By the way there is no evidence that isn't wholly fraudulent that will come to be known.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When Trump wins, the word you will hear from the acaDem.edia for the next four years is -
    suppression. The democrats are going to attempt voter fraud on a massive scale. If we are able to quarantine their efforts to the electoral votes they control outright, Trump will win.

    Voter suppression - you read it here first.
     
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    Of course it isn't. They're doing it because polls tell them to and they think they have convincing enough evidence that it will be more politically damaging for Republicans.

    Possibly. I'm considering very strongly voting Democrat this year for Senate due to my own state's senator's total dismissal of of the complaint. Normally I would vote only based on specific policy positions, which means it's typically 3rd party or no vote.

    As long as his poll numbers don't waver, then no. Both parties have shown themselves to be loyal to party and personal interests more than country. Republican fear of losing support of their base keeps them loyal. As do Democrats.

    I don't know how all those other people are connected, but it is unlikely individual Democratic congressmen / senators care all that much for each other personally. In Washington it seems everyone is looking out for number 1.
     
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    Best to prepare for the worst while hoping for better.
     
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    Is the democrat impeachment of President Trump a concession that democrats cannot beat President Trump in the 2020 election?
    Hell NO! Can and will bet him.

    Will the democrat impeachment of President Trump persuade more voters to vote against President Trump than they can persuade to vote for a democrat?
    Many Independents will be persuaded … and some Republicans.

    Will the democrat impeachment of President Trump change even one vote?
    Answered above.

    Will the democrat impeachment of President succeed in removing him from office before he is reelected?
    Possibly, but either way, he's toast.

    Are the democrats going all in on Ukraine because, if Biden goes down, Clinton, Comey, Brennen and Clapper also go down?
    There will be more then the phone call in the impeachment bill, and Biden going down is, as you guys say, a nothing burger.

    Is this last ditch effort an abandonment of the presidency altogether in an attempt to save the top dogs?
    Are you asking the Republicans?
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you more or less sure of the above than you were that Clinton would be elected in 2016?
     
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    "Want to bet? "

    Sure do. Name the stakes.
     
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    "Are you more or less sure of the above than you were that Clinton would be elected in 2016?"

    Very, very sure now because "Anybody but Trump" will prevail.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can put up $10K
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please, elaborate in the thread I started on this topic. I am encouraged by your confidence.
     
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    "I can put up $10K"

    I'm a Democrat. I can only cover $1K.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know where to begin. Is there a way, a website, a business that facilitates bets like this? Wouldn't it be cool to be able to post a bet with a card on line? If that's not a thing, it should be. A neutral third party, escrow, type bet facilitator.
     
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    A neutral third party, escrow, type bet facilitator.

    I've been giving it some thought as well ... perhaps, a savings account, requiring two signatures for withdrawal, but logistics would be quite a problem.

    I'm going to a casino tomorrow night (Monday) and I'll see if they have a betting line on the election. An early bet if available could be advantageous as events will cause the odds to change ... offering hedging opportunities.
     
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    Probably, no,no, no, and there's nothing they can do about that. The DOJ will be accused of playing politics but I think they're taking this one slow to get it right, to have an airtight case against the lot, to bag them all. Imagine an America after taking out that garbage. They should all die in prison and then rot in hell.
     
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    I'm worried that the Democrats/Liberals/Progressives will get violent if/when Trump is reelected.
     

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