We should try to pass gun control on the ballot.

Ballot measure to add gun control to the state constitutions.

Licensing Process

1. All persons must submit a request to begin the application process to their county sheriff at which point a check for any outstanding warrants or crimes from traffic violations to felonies will be checked. If anything comes up the request is denied, or if the Sheriff does not feel someone is capable of safely handling a firearm they can withhold their consent and deny permission.
2. After getting granted permission all persons must take a test about the history of guns, the change in how they worked, how to use each type safely, general gun safety, and be able to assemble in working condition each type of firearm. Failure results in having to wait 6 months before they can try again.
3. Applicants will then have to go through a high stress gun simulator where they will be faced with a virtual attacker and as some point they will either pull a phone or a gun, this will happen 20 times 10 of them being phones, they must survive all 20 by shooting when the gun in drawn and not shooting when the phone is drawn. Failing even once will result in having to wait 6 months to try the process again.
4. They then must get a note from a doctor confirming they are in a sound mental state, and consent from a family member and a friend.
5. They must acquire liability insurance for the gun, meaning that the insurance company must pay for all medical/barrial/legal fees of the victim in the event of a shooting.

Storage

1. Firearms and ammo must be kept separate during transport. Guns can not be loaded outside of a shooting range. All guns must have some sort of lock on them in the house where persons under the age of 18 reside.
2. A firearm is an extension legally of a person and the last legal owner of a firearm shall be liable for anything that happens to with their firearm before ownership is transferred.
3. Assault weapons are prohibited and are defined as any gun in which more than 5 bullets can be loaded at one time.

Loss of license

1. Failure to declare weapons when stopped by the police
2. Risk complaints by 3 or more people who can prove they know you
3. Being sent to jail
4. Being diagnosed with any mental health issue
5. Any act of violence with or without the use of a gun
6. Losing a gun- Which must be reported to the authorities within 24 hours.

 

Most revolvers fire six rounds. Are you seriously suggesting classifying revolvers as assualt weapons?

 

No because most revolvers are single bullet load, meaning you have to load each bullet separately not just stick a mag in a hole

 

I have a unicorn for sale if anyone is interested...

 

Similar to how you need to assemble every type of car before getting a drivers license.

Only if the police force must also abide by the same rules including the 6 month waiting period to try again.

So no orphans, NEETs, or people estranged from their family? Or most disturbingly, those who have fled their family due to risk of honor killings or being forcibly married abroad? Frankly the last one is the kind of person who most needs a means of self defence.

Way to enshrine a gun insurance lobby in law.

So practically all pistols loaded via magazine?

Unfortunately it is a great way to get shot by the police during a traffic stop.

What a fantastically low bar ripe for abuse. Have a falling out with a friend or lover? Come out as gay to your religiously conservative family? I would amend that with CREDIBLE complaints that can be corroborated. Of course how you determine what is credible is another matter.

 

I propose a constitutional amendment requiring a minimum IQ in order to be eligible to vote as well as being a net tax payer.

 

Apparently you never heard of a speed loader. And it is of course unconstitunal on its face.

 

In those 44 states it would take State Constitutional amendments to change the laws. Voters in those states would need to vote for the amendment not a gun control measure on a ballot.

 

Revolvers have speedloaders. Once again, the function of your proposed legislation is undermined by your ignorance of how firearms work.

lrn2shoot

 

I agree that citizens of all States should apply for and get a gun license like all other required licenses.
Then show their license in order to purchase a gun from any source.

But this will not stop illegal guns because there will always be a way for criminals to get a gun.

People sneaking across our borders can also bring in guns.

I am only for mandatory licensing, at which time the State runs a thorough background check prior to issuing the license. It should be renewed every two years and as with drivers license it should be tied to the criminal justice records.

 

What would this accomplish?

 

Not much to stop Criminals but what good does a fishing or hunting license do. In fact some States require a hunting license but not a gun license. How dumb is that.

 

So what is the point?

Hunting and fishing licenses are issued as part of the process of wildlife management. Nothing dumb there. A hunting license does not necessarily have to have anything to do with a firearm.

How would mandatory licensing accomplish anything?

 

Ok then forget licensing guns. Your right . It won't stop idiots from targeting and killing people or gangs from shooting at other gangs members or drug traffickers from killing people.

Taking guns from citizens or allowing anyone to contact police reporting someone they claim has psychological problems so they will be investigated or arrested without due process; will not stop mass shootings.

Society has hit bottom IMO. There is no respect for Authority because teachers and parents have lost the right to discipline. Morals gone by the way side. Crude television commercials and television shows that are basically rated R compared to those my generation watched.
Promotion of sex and abortion. Schools that don't teach what students need to learn to get jobs upon Graduation. Universities that hate Republicans and teach liberalism and Socialism in classes that are not suppose to be political, like English or Media.
Ignoring violence against Conservatives. Providing protection, sanctuary for convicted criminals. Allowing homeless to live on our streets and helping them to use drugs that are killing them( not caring or helping them to overcome their addiction or find jobs.)

I could go on.

Gun control on the ballot? Taking gun rights away from good people?

No way. We have the right to bear arms to protect ourselves from the Government. Against tyranny.

 

This would be the amendment

 

Unenforceable. If a law cannot be enforced, the only people who will comply with are the law abiding. The criminals will ignore it.
I live in the country. I have multiple weapons, most inherited. I doubt that a law enforcement officer has ever seen one of my weapons. If they do not know I have a weapon, how can they enforce a law which requires me to do all the above?

Unenforceable as above. In addition, we live in the country. About fifteen minutes from law enforcement as a minimum. You are requiring me to go to two different parts of the house and load a weapon. There is an old saying. "When seconds count, law enforcement is only minutes away". In this case, "When seconds count, my protection is only minutes away."

Again unenforceable. Only the lawful would comply.

 

It's enforceable because this law would be aided by state wide network for security cameras that record in color and that have audio ability. If you are seen with a gun, or heard talking about a gun, the police show up, and demand you show your license then put people into a database so that the state can determine who is allowed to be armed who is not and where everyone is at all time. Hack the phone locations as well a total profile of every living human 24/7 location, identity, seeing and hearing all activity. No one can escape the eye of the state.

Nope you simply need a lock and you need to have a key. Plus how often do criminals invade in the country?

Not with a cyber network that would make George Orwell blush.

 

A few comments on revolvers versus semi-automatics. I am not sure this has a lot to do with the discussion, but maybe it might give a few people a little insight.

I much prefer target practice with a revolver for a couple of reasons. Generally, when I target practice with a revolver, I will put two empty brass in it along with four live rounds. I spin the cylinder so that I cannot tell which chamber is being "fired". This allows me to check whether I am flinching when I fire.

Also, by its very basic nature, a revolver is more accurate. The barrel, frame and sights are one solid piece. In a semi-automatic, they are three separate pieces and the barrel moves during the firing. In other words, the barrel just happens to be passing by the target when the bullet leaves the barrel. In the case of my 45 semiautomatic, the barrel is moving up and to the right during firing.

 

It is unenfoceable. I am a law abiding person. Law enforcement has never seen one of my guns and I am not even trying to hide them. Certainly the lawless is not going to comply. It is the lawless that we want to control, not the law abiding.

I live in the country on a road to a national park. There are many drunks and drug users on that road. I have air bags and seat belts and use them, but they are not generally needed. It only takes one time.

How do you force the criminals to comply when law enforcement never see my guns and I don't even try to hide them?

 

How much is the taxes on nets?

 

I don't want any laws infringing on my rights..

 

We don't need them to comply, when someone is pulled over, we ask do you have a weapon and license, then if they say no, they get taken out of the car, its checked if they lied off to jail. If they didn't they are free to go, if the camera system catched someone with a gun that is not registered they get arrested and sent to jail. See someone open carrying they get checked.

The storage law really only would be enforced if a child get a hold of a loaded gun. So as long as you prevent that nothing would really happen

One simple text would scare everyone in that state from doing crime if they didn't want to be caught

Hello dear citizen, at *insert location* this is the government speaking you have *insert physical description* you work at *insert place* drive an *insert car* have an *insert phone* your name is *blank* and your mothers and fathers and siblings and childrens names are *blank* have a nice day, remember the eye is always watching.

 

Right to life or right to a gun.

 

That violates search and seizure in the constitution

Why don't we do that now and eliminate crime?
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Either way..