Can Anyone Explain?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Just A Man, Nov 4, 2019.

  1. ImNotOliver

    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    It is one if those things that makes discussions with conservatives so difficult, the fluidity of truth.

    Trump clearly used hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars in an effort to force the Ukrainian government to assist Trump in his reelection efforts and two of his operatives were arrested for funneling Russian money into Trump's campaign.

    That conservatives are okay with this, just goes to show, in my mind, that morality is as fluid with many conservatives, as is the truth.
     
  2. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Just like the Democrats tend to read things "between the lines" that are not actually there in the Constitution, likewise, they "hear between the lines" voices that are not there. Its been a problem with the Left for some time, its all those drugs they experiment with, sometimes cause other voices to be heard in their own heads.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Chief LEO =/= permission to solicit bribes

    What disturbs me is the fact that people appear to think that Trump's job requires this kind of corruption.
     
  5. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

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    The assist in his re-election efforts is an attempt to create a protected class. The left is currently babbling about how nobody is above the law, and that is quite true. We're going to find out what Biden and son were up to in Ukraine.

    and China

    and wherever else he did the same thing.
     
  6. nra37922

    nra37922 Well-Known Member

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    Ripping off Babs

    People
    People who hear voices
    Are the craziest people in the world
    They're crazies needing other crazies
    And yet letting their grown-up pride
    Hide all the voices inside
    Acting more like crazies than crazies
     
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    SkullKrusher Banned

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    okay, from here out,i will only try to rip off George Carlin, Groucho Marx, or Mark Twain
     
  8. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    So in other words, you're claiming that the only actual evidence we have, the transcript, is a fake?

    OK run with that.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So.........the WH released an incomplete transcript omitting some damaging parts in order to deceive the public, and you are OK with that? Wait.............that really doesn't surprise me.
     
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    You got enough of the transcript. The actual recording of the conversation would probably be the end of this impeachment nonsense. The facts are that both participants say there was no pressure.

    The actual recording could be the end of this, but a lot of people think that it's good for Trump to run with impeachment. It makes democrats look like complete morons. You probably disagree, but how would a normal person see this?

    * Trump asked Ukraine to investigate Biden
    * Democrats insist that investigating democrats is an impeachable offense.

    Democrats look like idiots.
     
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    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Then why have you and others been claiming for weeks that the transcript proved that Trump was a traitor/criminal/fill-in-the-blank? I've been asking since the transcript came out for you guys to actually point out the part in the transcript that Trump was committing a crime...

    ...no takers.

    Now the story is that the this a doctored copy.

    You guys...go ahead and get me the "real" copy and let me read it and we'll see, but it sounds as if you've just been blowing smoke for the past couple of weeks.
     
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    past couple of years.

    I'm just tired of the left. They're so full of BS that they've passed the Aegean stables threshold, and all they can throw out is BS. It's all they have now.

    A real copy? Nope, they don't have that. What do they have? Umm.... boy they're really stupid when it comes to actually having something. Ask them how many fingers they have, and they couldn't count that high because they don't know how to take off their socks to get at their toes.

    I am just sooooo tired of lefties. Just expecting honesty from them is no longer a viable hope.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    I suppose if you had the capability to step back and look at things objectively, you would start insulting yourself.
     
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    They have not released a transcript.
     
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    The transcript wasn't made public because there is no actual transcript. This phone call wasn't recorded; it was recreated and some damning info was omitted.

    Think about it: If the call was recorded, why not just release the audio recording?

    Exactly.
     
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    The claim about the "non-transcript" is that it was evidence of an impeachable offense. Now I'm hearing that no, there is another real transcript out there.

    So the impeachment hearings all seem to be based on a lie. Color me shocked.
     
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    There was a memo of the çall, but not a transcript. Now that the testimonies have mostly concluded the transcripts of those are about to come out, as well as public hearings.

    Everyone who has testified has reportedly given damning evidence, under oath.

    That you would characterize it as a lie, is quite telling.
     
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    Actually, Schiff has released the worst he could glean from the testimony and it is underwhelming.

    The longer this charade goes on the more it will damage the Democrat Party.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have posted over 14,000 entries over the past three years.

    Knee slap......
     
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    Maybe because some people in Trump's inner-circle told him that lefties don't actually care about actual recordings.

    Look, we have video of Biden talking about withholding funds from Ukraine because he wanted a judge dismissed. Did anybody on the left care about that? No! We have years of hearing from lefties about Mueller, and now that he turned into a nothingburger, they came up with this phone call.

    Let me make this perfectly clear. I, and many others, think that this has absolutely nothing to do with Ukraine or Russia or anything. It's just about Trump, and when this Ukraine thing fizzles out, there will be something else for the left to get angry about.

    So why bother anymore?
     
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    lets hear all of obamas phone calls ,then we can talk....
     
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    Interesting. That means Trump has lied almost as many times as I have told the truth on this forum. I hadn't noticed that coincidence.
     
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  23. Just A Man

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    Just A Man Well-Known Member

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    You have not heard the recording if there is one, yet you say damming info was omitted from the recreated transcript? You are good.
     
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    I guess I'll have to clearly answer my own question because no one else seems to want to or be able to. This whole scenario is being carried out by the democrats to try and damage President Trump. There you have it, a one sentence explanation.
    Russia, Russia, Russia, Collusion, Collusion, Collusion, Stormy Daniels, Stormy Daniels, Stormy Daniels, Ukraine Quid Pro Quo, Ukraine Quid Pro Quo, Ukraine Quid Pro Quo, stay tuned for the next scenario by the TDS democrats. There is no proven crime committed by Trump -- there is an impeachment inquiry to look for a crime.
     

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