I truly do fear for our country, just as an American

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  1. petef56

    petef56 Well-Known Member

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    The above quote is LAUGHABLE!!! Not one bit of truth in it.

    In spite of Trump being under constant attack by the leftist lying media, the socialist communist DEMs, the globalist RINOs and all those brainwashed to hate him, he's getting the job done to take back America!

    BRAVO TRUMP! BEST PRESIDENT EVER!

    Anyone who's attended a Trump rally know the truth and the good character of those who attend, and the THOUSANDS that remain there OUTSIDE because the stadiums are to full capacity. In comparison, the DEMS can't seem to fill a high school gymnasium. So you know there's massive voter fraud going on in America and we aim to stop it!

    In spite of bogus scandals totally made up by the DEMS in order to obstruct, Trump is succeeding in undoing and reversing what took the treasonous globalist leftist socialist communist and Rinos DECADES to accomplish.

    BRAVO TRUMP! BEST PRESIDENT EVER!

    --pete--
     
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  2. Margot2

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    No.Reagan wasn't tweeting all day or on TV every day. He also wasn't creepy or attacking people or lying constantly or vulgar.
     
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    You mean the americans caught up in Trump hysteria ..Watch the films of Hitlers speeches.
     
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    Well of course not, it took Al Gore to invent the internet much later before tweeting was possible. You didn't answer his question. Reagan like all other Republicans were attacked or the subject of fear mongering. Recall how he was called a cowboy that was going to get us involved in a nuclear war? However, he just let the personal attacks slide right off. Trump is no Reagan in that regard. However Trump's "lies" or vulgarity are nothing compared to what he is subjected to on a daily basis. If he was treated fairly, he wouldn't resort to these counter attacks.
     
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    LMAO...To quote a sage=The above quote is LAUGHABLE!!! Not one bit of truth in it.
     
  6. petef56

    petef56 Well-Known Member

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    That's all you got? Come on friend, surely you can do better than that? LMAO
     
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    Given that Twitter didn't even exist back then your point is true while still being irrelevant.
     
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    Trash80 personal computers were just hitting the Radio Shack stores then.

    Whether that was a good thing or a bad thing yet remains in question.
     
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    Incidentally the Internet officially was born 50 years ago on November 2nd IIRC. When a computer in a lab at USC sent a message to a computer at Stanford. The message was "lo". They were trying to send "login" but the computer went down.
     
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    So we are going to nuke them? :roll: Well if that's the case, then I certainly agree and I do love your approach!

    But there was this. Sounds like boots on the ground at some point ;)
     
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    Oh and there was these mystery soldiers that were never fighting on the ground..

    US Army ground units at Iwo Jima
     
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    Of course you'd think that.

    Back in reality, the country couldn't be doing any better.
     
  13. Balto

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    We need to redefine what reality here is. The national deficit is bloated from the tax cuts, which by the way corporations are now using that for stock buybacks, we've had three mass shootings in the time Trump has been in office. One being the deadliest in a place of worship in US history. What set that guy off? The idea Jews are globalists. And who's spit out that idea? Trump. The El Paso shooter cited an invasion of migrants in his manifesto, guess who else has used that language? Trump. To further put this into perspective, there were three mass shootings in the eight years Obama was in office. Sandy Hook, Aurora, and the Pulse Nightclub shooting. As I said to another poster, migrant crossings jumped in 2017. Trump had all he needed to execute a wall from end to end, and didn't do it. All three branches of government were his.

    And he didn't go through with it, so that should tell us all the wall was just politics as usual. I know people who work two jobs just to pay rent, families and single mothers. They contribute greatly to the dip in the unemployment numbers.

    Dig into the country more deeply, and the country couldn't be getting any worse. Or so one would think.
     
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    Wrong, unless the tax cuts were from 2010.

    I like how you're pretending Democrats aren't fighting tooth and nail to stop the wall though. It's what they do.

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    Sigh, let's try this again. Truth speaks to power, Trump's buddy in Kentucky just lost last night, and Virginia fully flipped, with a win in Missouri for dems as well.

    Where do we begin? Do we begin by looking at the constitution? Bribery is an impeachable offense, withholding military aid toward Ukraine to bribe them to get dirt on a political opponents is an impeachable offense. Just imagine what you would be saying if Obama did that. Obstruction of justice is another impeachable offense, going back to the document of George Washington. Obstruction is simply voluntary interference. That being said, anything from the firing of James Comey to the obstructive July tweet on Air Force One to toying with witness intimidation of trying to keep Michael Cohen from testifying, if Obama or Hillary did anything close to what Trump has done these past three years, you'd be screaming for them to be impeached. These "bogus scandals" have resulted in indictments, prison sentences, and one Russian national being sent back to her home country. Because that's how our justice system is supposed to work.

    Tell me, if you think Hillary was a liar, a criminal, are you going to tell me you're okay with Trump as a liar and a criminal, who has committed two impeachable offenses, coming straight from the constitution? No one should be above the law, that was your criticism of Hillary, remember? Now you're telling me the "best president ever" is one that's acting above the law, do you care to explain yourself?
     
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    Please split and let’s give it a try. But you have to promise to stay in your enclaves. No cheating and going outside the wire looking for food.
     
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    You might want to do your own research before you go claiming any personal victories.

    Unless you just like trolling.

    I'll let you simmer in your own ignorance on the issue.
     
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    I didn't know you as an American. I identified you as a progressive.
     
  19. Balto

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    Your own graph proves my statement.

    The deficit is expected to rise by nearly 100% by 2029. Do you really think our country can afford that? It's the repercussion that came with those forced-through tax cuts in 2017.
     
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    Balto Well-Known Member

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    And yet states in the south are trying to have their governments tell what a woman can do with her body....

    Funny enough, democrats ae actually the ones advocating for this founding principle, not the GOP. To be pro-choice, for or for not abortion, is that of individual liberty. To use marijuana without fear of prosecution is individual liberty. Problem is sometimes a country has to have security, such as in the case of the AR-15 rifles following the same federal ban machine guns did. After a country is ravaged time and time again by savagery, sometimes security is the best option.
     
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    They could speak in complete sentences, and they didn't need to constantly hold rallies either.

    I'm not going to even go into whether or not Trump can be compared to either of those two men, because he can't.
     
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    I'm a realist, not a mere optimist for the sake of my party. I know the stock market has been slowly rising, the current bull market going back as far as 2008, and if history proves anything, its that bull markets typically only run ten years before bears set in. So the market is in a really big bubble right now that has been rocked back and forth by the trade war with China. What comes up must come down, and I don't want to see the market come down nearly as hard as its gone up or we might see a depression.

    Where was the incentive for Trump to convince GM to make the revamped Chevy Blazer here? Or what has Trump done to try reopening Lordstown other than tweeting about it?

    Bush talked with Kim, and tried coming up to deals. Exactly like Trump. But like Kim outsmarted George, he has outsmarted Trump with no sign of a deal of denuclearizing North Korea. We came close, but largely due in part to NK's Southern neighbor speaking up. In fact, if you Google it, Obama was up to meeting with Kim, but NK never actually sent the invitation.

    Trump has been all talk with China, created uncertainty with the market, and induced fear that consumables will go through the roof due to tariffs. The only tariffs China has even agreed to roll back on are on soybeans. I expect everything else to rise in price this holiday season. The country is doing great? Three mass shootings, one targeting Jews, attacks are on the rise with women's reproductive rights, just look at Alabama, the transgender community is under attack by this administration, and that's not just the media saying it, look at Trump's policies. Nothing has actually been done on healthcare, a slight Obamacare repeal means nothing, and there is still a massive amount of income inequality, which will grow even more should the market show signs of a recession. Fentanyl is still being used on the east coast as a medication.

    What about the objective reality I just described is indicative at all the country is doing great? It's not. The unemployment number is nice, but doesn't say its largely a result of individuals working two or three jobs each.
     
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    Imagine that, a Democrat won in a Republican bastion, Kentucky. A Democrat won in a state won by Trump by 30 percentage points. A Democrat won in Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's state. A Democrat won in Rand Paul's state.

    Trump is going down and he is going to take the GOP with him unless Republicans grow a brain.

    Democrats gained control of both houses of the Virginia General Assembly on Tuesday, tapping strength in the suburbs to consolidate power for the first time in a generation and deliver a rebuke to President Trump
    , the Post.

    A disastrous day for the GOP. The question is, will they learn anything from it? Simply saying the impeachment inquiry is a sham, a Soviet style inquisition will not do. Our Constitution provides for impeachment and gives unconditional control to the House. Ridiculing the impeachment process is ridiculing our Constitution, and voters know that.

    Saying Trump did nothing wrong when he asked for foreign interference in our Presidential election will not do.

    Saying that requesting foreign interference in our Presidential election is not an impeachable offense will not do.

    Saying there is no quid pro quo when members of Trump's own staff, including his chief of staff, have admitted there was quid pro quo will not do.

    Republicans either learn from all this or die (in political terms).
     
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    I am a card-carrying Republican. So, why am I celebrating Democratic victories over Trump supported Republicans?

    Because it is my firm belief that the best thing that could happen to the Republican Party is Trump's removal, either by impeachment or the November vote in 2020. I prefer the latter because I don't think the former will work. Impeachment would be a waste of time, money, and energy while weakening both parties and further dividing the nation.

    Trump is the worst thing that ever happened to the GOP, and the mindless President proves it every day. As shown in several threads, his supporters can't even defend him.

    What does that say about his supporters?
     
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    And now you place it in Trump?!?

    Wow, just WOW.
     

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