Loose gun laws, high crime cities?

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  1. pitbull

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    Gun violence is not a race problem. Poor people are statistically more criminal because they also have to make a living.
     
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    That's why he didn't mention cities in Idaho, Montana, Oregon, or Vermont.
     
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    No, there isn't really a correlation between poverty and homicide.

    WV is extremely poor in areas, and while it may have higher property crimes, it does not have a high murder rate.

    The bottom line is, more than half of the homicide in this country is committed by a demographic that is about 1-2% of the population.
     
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    Yeah, but we're talking racists here. Former slave owners, home of the KKK, segregationists. They always point at states where the concentration of blacks reside. Another Trump term and blacks won't be known for the characteristics common to poor people. Not sure what Democrats will do then.
     
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    You ain't going to deny the criminals so let's all have one. Bad person shoots at me I can shoot back rather than just let him put daylight through me.
     
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    Having moved to WV I totally understand your post.
     
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    But ya know, the poster has a point. Southern Democrats who owned slaves came from Gaelic areas. They were some of the nastiest people on the planet ,,, and they were white. 'Words' like aks instead of ask were taught by these early Democrats. So alot of characteristics we might associate with Blacks are really characteristics of blacks who never left the plantation, blacks taught by white Democrats. I've found conservative blacks to be some of the finest people I've met.
     
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    that's not what people say. they say that strong ( unconstitutional) gun controls don't make places safer!
     
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    It's not just blacks, although they have high numbers.

    It's the highly violent percentages among minorities in gangs. I mean they have guys in Baltimore that have killed as many as 10 people (that they know of).

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3969807/

    persistent violent offenders (1.0 % of the total population) accounted for 63.2 % of all convictions.
     
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    Left lite took over.
     
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    It is gangs. However, blacks kill each other about seven times as frequently as whites.
     
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    there are 5 million members of the NRA, not a single one will voluntarily give up their gun. Nor should they, not ever, not to anyone.
     
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    Sooooo If I am poor it is OK for me to go out and make a living with a gun? Your comment could not be more off base. Get real, it is parenting and gangs and you can thank Lyndon Johnson for both.
     
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    Still waiting for you to provide those "facts".
    If "guns are neither the problem nor solution" how is it that "some gun laws... make sense"?
    Would seem to me if you have something that is neither a problem nor a solution to a problem it would not require legislation.
     
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    No. Most poor criminals just choose to be both.
     
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    That’s a pretty good argument for the death penalty for violent crime.
     
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    background checks to buy a gun, makes sense.
     
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    Look up where most of those murders happen in those cities then look at who lives there. In Omaha most of the murders happen in North Omaha large black population. We don't have a gun problem we have a community problem in heavily black neighborhoods. Why?
     
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    And how is this statement a fact?
     
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    Still buy them off the black market. M
    Then why were they less criminally involved 50 years ago? Why is there white collar crime. Why is an Ak or AR used in only about 2 % of crimes? Why since 1995 and the introduction of concealed carry laws have all types of crime rates fallen drastically?rather than increased dramatically.
     
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    Been done for fifty years has had no impact on crime rates.
     
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    You mean "austere entrepreneurs".
     
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    Because everyone could find a relatively well-payed job. People who didn't know if they could pay for their lunch tomorrow were very rare. The gap between the poor and the wealthy wasn't that big then.

    I think an assault rifle is hard to hide under the jacket. AKs and ARs are a good choice for terrorist attacks, but not if you want to rob a bank or liquor store. Criminals often use sawed-off shotguns. On the other hand, there are also handguns with immense firepower.

    I can't explain that (to me). Especially because there are crimes in which the armed citizen is not a deterrent.
     
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    It depends on the "mainstream white man's society" that implicitly excludes Blacks and Arabs. If someone is dark-skinned or comes from the Middle East, he is more likely to be a loser in this society than a white man.
     
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